#arpnetworks 2009-12-19,Sat

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ballenbe nice to kinda like... not be infatuated with her though
makes life a bit more stressful
not a big fan of stress
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jlgaddisup_the_irons: hey, when one places an order, how long does it take to get a vps set up? wasn't sure if it was an automatic or manual process? thanks. [00:01]
up_the_ironsjlgaddis: it is manual and usually takes 24 hours [00:01]
ballenstupid ass swfupload
wtf is IO Err 2018
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jlgaddisup_the_irons: awesome, thanks [00:02]
up_the_ironsnp [00:02]
ballenjlgaddis: love you hostname on irc btw
your*
evilrouters.net
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jlgaddisheh, thanks [00:03]
ballenWhat Could Possibly Go Wrong (TM)
btw Garry I've stole or (TM) thing
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mhoranOoh, I haven't been up early enough to receive mail from root@ in a while! [00:04]
ballenhah
I get waaaay to much
of root@ mail
stupid periodic freebsd
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mhoran:( [00:04]
ballenoh don't be sad
its ok
I just have like 20 freebsd machines that email me
gets really annoying
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mhoranroot mail makes me feel wanted! [00:05]
ballenmmk
whyyyy
Starbucks sounds sooo good right now
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mhoranIf only Starbucks were open at 3am. [00:07]
ballenhung out with a Starbucks biristra
tonight
not said girl
but friend of hers
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up_the_ironsballen: I love the (tm) thing [00:08]
ballenyea I dig it as well [00:08]
up_the_ironsup_the_irons is sipping Starbucks right now [00:08]
ballenmotherfucker [00:08]
mhoranmhoran jealous. [00:08]
up_the_ironslol [00:08]
mhoranHm. I suppose there's some tea in the cupboard.
Too much effort.
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ballenfuck tea [00:09]
up_the_ironsI got (tm) from Qsource, but he doesn't hang out here much anymore; he's a FreeBSD / DALnet guy [00:09]
ballenyea
nice
[00:09]
mhoranqsorce was here for a while ... what ever happened to him?
sorce.
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ballenlove the FreeBSD community
urg... mail from root from my VM
wow
(host mx1a.comcast.net[76.96.62.116] refused to talk to me: 554 IMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net comcast 208.79.89.202 Comcast requires that all mail servers must have a PTR record with a valid Reverse DNS entry. Currently your mail server does not fill that requirement. For more information, refer to:
yea Garry
fix my PTR eh
fecking comcast
but I do love the "refused to talk to me: 554" error
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mhoranStupid Comcast. [00:11]
ballenmakes me take pity on my MTA
the other kids don't like him
its not even that they ignored him
they outright refused to talk to him
btw: http://epicwinftw.com/2009/12/11/admiral-ackbar-approved/
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mhoranHeh.
mhoran -> bed
Good nigh!
night.
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up_the_ironsmhoran: qsource lost his session among a sea of screen's across his server farm [00:15]
ballenawww
mhoran: k night
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mhoranup_the_irons: Hah. [00:15]
up_the_ironsmhoran: l8r [00:16]
ballenhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/26/ionatron_still_going/ - Lightning-gun tech 'approaching weaponisation'
sounds like a solid idea
Ouch see Rackspace went down today
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up_the_ironsagain? [00:20]
ballenyea
network issue
took down TechCrunch
37Signals, etc
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jlgaddis(parts of) 365 main went down, iirc [00:21]
ballenand Twitter's DNS got hacked
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/twitter-hacked-redirected/
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up_the_ironsyeah i saw the twitter hack [00:21]
ballenyou'd think you would setup with your registar at that point someway that a phone call wold be needed to confirm changes [00:23]
jlgaddisthey didn't change the dns servers, they logged into their account at dyn.com and changed the a records, supposedly [00:24]
ballenyea
that's what I'm saying
pay some extra money
dyn.com required to call Twitter's phone
on every change
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jlgaddisyeah, that's a new service they can sell now =) [00:24]
ballenyep [00:24]
up_the_ironssrsly [00:25]
ballensrsly... no srsly
be like Facebook using Godaddy
paying 8.99 a year for their domain
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up_the_ironslol [00:26]
jlgaddislol [00:26]
ballenmight want to switch over to Verisign
or similar
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up_the_ironsi love it when you get a tar command _just_ right, it does wonders [00:33]
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up_the_ironsjlgaddis: LOL, this is awesome: http://evilrouters.net/2009/10/05/fine-example-of-procurve-engineering/ [00:57]
jlgaddishah, our hp sales guy didn't care much for it [00:57]
up_the_ironsi bet [00:58]
ballenHP switches are awesome I don't know what you're talking about ;-) [00:58]
jlgaddisluckily, i won't have to deal with that anymore. we're gonna ripp out all the hp gear.
s/ripp/rip/
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up_the_ironsnice [00:59]
ballenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg&feature=PlayList&p=1B9C05F4E9DF11BA&index=60
I'm not really sure what this means
Do it like a truck...
wtf does that mean
I can't even come up with reasonable sexual innuendos
slow buts lots of cargo
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jlgaddis"A single sperm has 37.5MB of DNA information in it. That means that a normal ejaculation represents a data transfer of 1,587.5TB" [01:04]
ballenyea I'd go with that [01:05]
up_the_ironsman, that's faster than fedex [01:09]
jlgaddisup_the_irons: dude, that was fast. thanks. [01:17]
up_the_ironsjlgaddis: i aim to please
;)
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balleni on the otherhand just aim [01:18]
up_the_ironsLOL [01:22]
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srouteWow, look at that, pages and pages of chat in here. Epic. [05:48]
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jeevhahah iranian cyber army
thats why i love iran so much lol
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ballenand my head hurts [09:33]
jeevdrink coffee [09:34]
ballenyep [09:35]
jeevtoo bad coffee sucks [09:37]
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digibsd6What version of OpenBSD you are proposing? [14:11]
ballenmeaning what version can run on ArpNetworks? [14:12]
digibsd6yes [14:13]
ballen4.6 [14:14]
digibsd6it is there you automatque resettlement system [14:15]
ballenas in can you reset you VPS from the web?
your*
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digibsd6yes [14:16]
ballenyep, can boot, shutdown hard, or shutdown gracefully [14:17]
DaCadigibsd6: both via web and serial console [14:17]
digibsd6thank you very much [14:19]
ballenno problem [14:19]
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jeevif you buy a /23 from your uplink
how much is a GOOD price ?
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ballenballen shrugs [14:29]
jeevi think asking $300/month is too much
considering i'm a current customer, own a /23 from them
and that is what? $3600/year for ips
3600
Small $2,250 /20 to /19
arin charges less for a lot more ips.
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up_the_ironsjeev: yeah but ARIN has much stricter requirements. you'd be paying $300 to not have to go through ARIN and plus your upstream wants to make money
as IPv4 runout occurs, we're gonna see IPv4 go up astronomically
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ballenoh we're never going to run out ;-)
however we all might want to go stockpile a few class c
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jeevup_the_irons, im not gonna ask ARIN for a /20 or /19, i'd ask for /22 max
or a /21
that's $300/month bythe way
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up_the_ironsthere's no reason a vendor should give you IPs at their cost. What is the incentive? Esp. when IPv4 runs out, you'll have IPs that can't be given to new clients. at that point the vendor can either charge you more for IPs, to make up for the loss of business, or take the IPs away and force you into a smaller block [17:49]
jeevi know
i'm considering that i dont need as much ips
i have two clients that each have a /25, they pay very little.
it's about time to renegotiate with them how much they're gonna pay
but unfortunately if cost is 5-6 bux to 11-12 bux per block at a /20 or /19 level, i wish they'd charge me 4 times more, not 10
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jlgaddisgive it about two years and i'll sell you some of my /16 =) [18:56]
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jlgaddisthat dumb whore wants me to come over and "watch movies", so i guess i'll go and fuck her
shit
ignore that lol
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ballenhmm
wrong channel perhaps ?
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jlgaddisforgot /m [21:29]
ballenhah [21:29]
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