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[02:47] <DaCa> sroute: vimperator
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[05:44] <up_the_irons> sroute: yeah man, vimperator
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[07:02] <sroute>  I guess I should try vimperator, again. Been a long time.
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[10:03] <andrew69> hello
[10:03] <andrew69>  is it possible to have an approximate cost fortraffic and Mbps band?
[10:03] <andrew69> thanks
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[10:08] <toddf> andrew69: the cost for bandwidth used is total bytes xfered not Mbps burst speed at arpnetworks, the pricing is clear on the website, not sure what you're asking, if you wish official answers, up_the_irons is the arpnetworks staff person in this channel
[10:08] <toddf> otherwise support@arpnetworks.com is the best source of official answers as well as any support needs
[10:10] <andrew69> Ok, I mean more bytes than I can see on web plans... I try to write an email... thank you...
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[11:39] <dbgi-> whats the email for support?
[11:40] <dbgi-> is it support@arpnetworks.com
[11:40] <dbgi-> ?
[11:40] <mhoran> Yup.
[11:40] <dbgi-> k thanks
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[12:30] <jeev> bah, someone is POSTing to my order page but i have requirements for fields
[12:30] <jeev> so i hink they're not typing it all
[12:30] <jeev> i need a better way to do this, gay
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[12:43] <toddf> jeev: you are not aware that if you have a form to submit info the lusers out there will try to hack it?
[12:43] <toddf> validating form submission data is like web 101
[12:44] <mike-burns> jeev: Be sure that your queries look like this: User.find_by_sql("SELECT * FROM USERS WHERE #{params[:sql]}")
[12:44] <mike-burns> That's the safest.
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[12:54] <sroute> And/or use a web framework that does intelligent quoting.
[12:54] <sroute> sorry, SQL parameter passing, a mandatory;
[12:55] <sroute> In this day and age I can't believe people still make those mistakes.
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[14:00] <jeev> shitttttt, i lost an order cause i made an error in my submission page, jeebus
[14:02] <mike-burns> What do you use for integration testing?
[14:02] <jeev> use ?
[14:02] <jeev> whatcha mean
[14:03] <jeev> it was working, till i decided to add a simple thing to the receipt which is generated by the submission php
[14:03] <jeev> and i didn't close it with ; and the php was b0rking
[14:04] <mike-burns> I mean like Selenium or, in Ruby, Webrat.
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[14:44] <jeev> huh
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[18:20] <sroute> Jeev you might want to read this series of articles http://agiletesting.blogspot.com/2005/02/web-app-testing-with-python-part-1.html
[18:20] <sroute> Actually scroll down this page to "Web application testing" http://agilistas.org/articles/
[18:21] <sroute> And below there are a number of Selenium specific articles.
[18:21] <sroute> You might also google "test driven development" - tons of material on that.
[18:26] <sroute> Even if you don't write your tests first, ensuring you have decent coverage of your code with tests will help you avoid many errors... will repay itself time and time again.
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[18:43] <jeev> heh
[18:43] <jeev> yea i wont error again
[18:43] <jeev> i'm just a bit annoyed i helped someone for a while, we were nice to one another, hope he orders soon
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[20:30] <amdprophet> sroute: you in vancouver?
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[23:11] <ballen> new favorite server, Sun M4000
[23:51] <up_the_irons> ballen: is that a storage box?
[23:51] <ballen> its what we're using it for
[23:51] <ballen> seeing how it only has two internal drives
[23:52] <ballen> and is 6U
[23:55] <ballen> I think the number of Facebook friends I have has hit a critical mass that Facebook's "suggestions" page can reliabily find anyone I've ever met ever
[23:56] <up_the_irons> lol
[23:57] <up_the_irons> ballen: I'd like to justify the cost of a Sun; they look cool.  But I can't seem to
[23:57] <jeev> what the hell is the point of that box /
[23:58] <ballen> yea true... I work for the govt justification really isn't needed
[23:58] <jeev> who on earth would spend more than two thousand dollars for those specs
[23:58] <ballen> me
[23:58] <ballen> many times over
[23:58] <jeev> why?
[23:58] <ballen> cause shit cannot break
[23:58] <ballen> ever
[23:58] <ballen> and we're willing to pay for it
[23:58] <jeev> i'm confused
[23:58] <jeev> what does that do
[23:58] <jeev> store data?
[23:58] <ballen> yea
[23:58] <jeev> 6u, two hard drives, to store data ?
[23:58] <jeev> i assume you have shit attached, externally
[23:59] <ballen> yep
[23:59] <jeev> i see
[23:59] <up_the_irons> ballen: why is it so big?
[23:59] <up_the_irons> only 2 internal drives
[23:59] <up_the_irons> yet it is 6U
[23:59] <jeev> was it necessary to go SPARC?
[23:59] <ballen> lots of room for expansion cards
[23:59] <ballen> http://www.sun.com/servers/midrange/m4000/