[01:04] toddf: i like your desktop [01:07] toddf: sroute: it's all about xmonad you fools [01:18] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [01:40] 3ware 9650SE-8LPML sold out everywhere, ugh [02:03] not in germany :) [02:22] *** sroute has quit IRC (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) [02:23] *** sroute has joined #arpnetworks [02:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sroute [02:34] *** sroute has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [02:35] *** sroute has joined #arpnetworks [02:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sroute [04:26] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [04:35] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [06:19] The switch from vim to gvim was a very major change in my life, as related to window managers. [06:19] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [06:19] It meant that I no longer spend all day in a terminal! [06:19] *** vtoms has left [06:25] so why did you do it? [06:39] Better font options. [06:41] * schmir thinks vi is a pretty decent viper mode emulation [06:46] * mike-burns thinks emacs and vim are the clear winners of the editor wars and any other editor is a worthless imitation. [06:51] * DaCa is happy with nvi in an xterm with terminus font [07:04] mike-burns: I use gvim in my simple tiling window manager. For better font options as you noted. I also like cut and paste better in it, a non trivial improvement. But I have all the menus turned off - the casual eye might mistake it for regular vim on first glance. [07:52] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [07:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [08:27] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [08:28] up_the_irons: in addition to liking my desktop pay careful attention to the details surrounding the commit you see me having made. bridgename.bridge0 -> hostname.bridge0 preceeded my commit in 4.6-current and now you no longer have to do 'up' unless you really need it, etc [08:38] *** visinin has joined #arpnetworks [08:51] up_the_irons: that new config of mine is working a-ok so far. [08:57] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [08:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [09:19] grr im tired of people leaving as i live chat them [09:19] i know they'll be back [09:19] just do it now; turds. [09:20] clients are such a pain. But so is hunger. [09:21] mike-burns: oh hai [09:21] i didn't know you were in arpnetworks [09:21] do you know garry? [09:22] how funny, they submitted an order but it got declined and they left [09:24] shit, no zip or thingy match [09:27] grr! [09:30] jeev: there is a reason why automation costs less, heartburn medicine is not necessary for computers [09:33] eh [09:33] yea it was an automatic decline [09:33] brb [09:40] rawr [09:53] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [09:54] *** dbgi- has joined #arpnetworks [10:35] sroute: Oh yeah, I absolutely turned off the gvim menus, and mouse support. I forgot about the copy/paste support: "* is pretty excellent. [10:36] heavysixer: Been in here for months! Just another happy client. [10:36] mike-burns: ha word [10:36] mike-burns: yeah Garry and I do pledgie.com together [10:37] Awesome. Rumor has it that you use plugins that I sometimes maintain for that ... [10:37] mike-burns: we have LOTS of thoughtbot plugins [10:37] if that's what you mean [10:37] i think we use most of them except clearance and hoptoad [10:38] Yeah that's what I mean. [10:38] yeh. [10:38] Hoptoad is pretty sweet, IMO. [10:38] If you have exceptions, which I'm sure you don't. [10:40] mike-burns: never ;-) [10:40] mike-burns: yeah we looked at it since pledgie is a free service we can't afford hosted products yet :-) [10:41] we get a free tender and lighthouse account [10:41] that's why we have those [10:41] otherwise we wouldn't [10:41] There's a free Hoptoad account for one project. [10:41] oh? [10:41] mike-burns: do you guys do datamining? [10:41] are the exceptions private only to the project owner [10:42] we filter sensitive params where possible but i worry about it sometimes. [10:42] https://hoptoadapp.com/account/new - the free account has one project, two users, and a "rate limit" of 5. [10:42] We don't look at the data. [10:42] Unless you report a bug, then we look at your username. [10:42] gotcha [10:43] We also filter passwords and CC info from your data as best as we can. [10:43] We really don't like that kind of responsibility. :) [10:43] cool [10:43] yeah [10:43] it's a business you don't want to get mixed up in that's for sure. [10:44] We'd rather deal with DB and scaling issues instead of CC and law issues. [10:45] right [11:15] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [12:02] *** heavysixer_ has joined #arpnetworks [12:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer_ [12:03] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [12:03] *** heavysixer_ is now known as heavysixer [13:19] mike-burns: I had issues with fonts an vim as well. Fortunately, with urxvt, I found out how to configure xft fonts so if I want to go with a smooth anti-aliased font, it is there. xft fonts are also used by gvim, so I essentially get the exact same "look" between vim and gvim [13:19] DaCa: terminus font, eh? you should post a screenshot [13:20] toddf: thanks for the "live action" commit ;) [13:20] sroute: glad to hear the config is rockin! [13:21] heavysixer: wait, u know mike-burns? [13:22] up_the_irons: I'm absolutely loving the VPS. It's a huge step up from VPSLink. [13:22] ZFS is working great too [13:24] amdprophet: glad to hear!! [14:10] *** vtoms has left [14:40] *** heavysixer has quit IRC () [14:41] up_the_irons: I think heavysixer knows me from #thoughtbot. [14:42] mike-burns: gotcha [14:45] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [14:45] *** vtoms has left [15:26] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [15:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [15:30] up_the_irons: http://daca.info/2009-12-11-002432_1024x576_scrot.png [15:38] *** dja has joined #arpnetworks [15:43] DaCa: i like it [15:43] DaCa: show us the whole desktop (not just the window). that's terminus font, no? [15:43] cd $lunch [15:44] that's the whole desktop, I am on a netbook currently :) [15:47] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [15:47] xdm->cwm->xterm->tmux # all is from base except the font :) [15:48] DaCa: oh nice! [15:48] DaCa: what netbook? been thinking of getting one [15:48] cd $lunch-for-real [15:50] I got the compaq mini (hp mini in the us) because I found it to have the best keyboard [15:51] actually had a bit trouble convincing the seller at mediamarkt that I really wanted that one and not the 20 euro cheaper acer aspire one with double ram and faster atom chipset but crappy keyboard [16:04] *** schmir has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [16:11] up_the_irons just finished moving a swack of stuff to that config. no surprises. very nice. [16:17] up_the_irons: here is the smallest terminus size, not so beautiful but still much better than fixed at same size: http://daca.info/2009-12-11-010935_1024x576_scrot.png [16:19] *** heavysixer has quit IRC () [16:21] daca: I still like my 5x7 better, its more legible imho *grin* although admittedly your colors are brighter than mine ... I attempt to reduce annoying ambient light when my wife is sleeping (I say attempt, because it never works *sigh*) [16:21] up_the_irons: and here one of the bigger for presentations: http://daca.info/2009-12-11-011107_1024x576_scrot.png [16:22] heh, that does look nice for people who have to ask for the font to be larger.. [16:24] there are larger ones, but that's the largest I have in my xterm Xresources, there are only 6 slots :) [16:25] Seems console jocks work in the dark a lot. Ditto, although I am bannished to a basement office so waking my wife isn't an issue [16:25] s/bannished/banished [16:26] I live with cats, they don't mind :) [16:26] * sroute wishes he could still look at tiny fonts. Aging is crap! [16:29] I'm using a relatively large Deja Vu Sans Mono at 12 point. Or Google's "Droid Sans Mono" at 12 points in gvim [16:33] hmnn, maybe new glasses and I could drop down a point. add to #TODO [16:33] heh [16:33] people are so picky [16:33] i used securecrt on windows for 5 years with default shit till i realized i can use xterm and a black screen and it'd look elite and easier on my eyes [16:47] *** dbgi- has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [16:55] *** nuke` has quit IRC ("gone.") [16:55] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [16:56] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [16:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [16:57] *** nukeAFK has joined #arpnetworks [17:20] *** islandfo1 has joined #arpnetworks [17:34] *** islandfox has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [17:50] *** dbgi- has joined #arpnetworks [18:49] jesus man i'm tired of fixing my friends outlook when he reaches a 2gb limit or whatever [18:49] why can't he just switch to thunderbird [18:56] or mutt [18:56] lol [18:56] na [18:57] "Oh you're hardcore. ... I used mutt back in the day. ..." - everyone who has ever seen me use mutt. They then tell me all about how they used mutt and loved it and feel nostalgic for it now. [18:57] Time is 6:58pm, computer has been up for 1w 5d 7h 43m 44s [18:57] well, it's that time [18:57] i've been avoiding these windows vista updates. [18:58] im tired of closing EVERYTHING down [18:58] i have 20+ ssh sessions [18:58] a couple notepad todo's and other stuff open [18:58] and i hate having to reboot [18:58] bbiab [19:06] jeev: use screen [19:10] jeev: use !microsoft [19:11] *** dbgi- has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [19:28] ahh, did some cleaning up [19:51] *** nerdd has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [19:59] anyone from sweden or norway? [20:15] *** coil has quit IRC ("http://znc.in") [20:15] *** coil has joined #arpnetworks [20:16] *** coil is now known as Guest57788 [20:19] *** coil has joined #arpnetworks [20:26] *** Guest57788 has quit IRC ("when I raise my trigger finger all you fuckers hit the deck!") [20:52] *** dja has quit IRC ("Leaving") [22:08] ditto on screen and !microsoft. [22:09] *** islandfo1 has quit IRC ("leaving") [22:09] *** islandfox has joined #arpnetworks [22:13] mike-burns - I still use Mutt myself, and a web app when on the road; It appeals to me because I prefer to write with vim. Throw in abook for addresses and a little integration futzing and it does the job I need it to do. [22:13] too bad browsing is so click-friendly. [23:52] *** visinin has quit IRC ("sleep")