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| up_the_irons | toddf: i like your desktop
toddf: sroute: it's all about xmonad you fools | [01:04] |
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| up_the_irons | 3ware 9650SE-8LPML sold out everywhere, ugh | [01:40] |
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| schmir | not in germany :) | [02:03] |
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| mike-burns | The switch from vim to gvim was a very major change in my life, as related to window managers. | [06:19] |
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| mike-burns | It meant that I no longer spend all day in a terminal! | [06:19] |
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| DaCa | so why did you do it? | [06:25] |
| mike-burns | Better font options. | [06:39] |
| schmir | schmir thinks vi is a pretty decent viper mode emulation | [06:41] |
| mike-burns | mike-burns thinks emacs and vim are the clear winners of the editor wars and any other editor is a worthless imitation. | [06:46] |
| DaCa | DaCa is happy with nvi in an xterm with terminus font | [06:51] |
| sroute | mike-burns: I use gvim in my simple tiling window manager. For better font options as you noted. I also like cut and paste better in it, a non trivial improvement. But I have all the menus turned off - the casual eye might mistake it for regular vim on first glance. | [07:04] |
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| toddf | up_the_irons: in addition to liking my desktop pay careful attention to the details surrounding the commit you see me having made. bridgename.bridge0 -> hostname.bridge0 preceeded my commit in 4.6-current and now you no longer have to do 'up' unless you really need it, etc | [08:28] |
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| sroute | up_the_irons: that new config of mine is working a-ok so far. | [08:51] |
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| jeev | grr im tired of people leaving as i live chat them
i know they'll be back just do it now; turds. | [09:19] |
| sroute | clients are such a pain. But so is hunger. | [09:20] |
| heavysixer | mike-burns: oh hai
i didn't know you were in arpnetworks do you know garry? | [09:21] |
| jeev | how funny, they submitted an order but it got declined and they left
shit, no zip or thingy match grr! | [09:22] |
| toddf | jeev: there is a reason why automation costs less, heartburn medicine is not necessary for computers | [09:30] |
| jeev | eh
yea it was an automatic decline brb | [09:33] |
| rawr | [09:40] | |
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| mike-burns | sroute: Oh yeah, I absolutely turned off the gvim menus, and mouse support. I forgot about the copy/paste support: "* is pretty excellent.
heavysixer: Been in here for months! Just another happy client. | [10:35] |
| heavysixer | mike-burns: ha word
mike-burns: yeah Garry and I do pledgie.com together | [10:36] |
| mike-burns | Awesome. Rumor has it that you use plugins that I sometimes maintain for that ... | [10:37] |
| heavysixer | mike-burns: we have LOTS of thoughtbot plugins
if that's what you mean i think we use most of them except clearance and hoptoad | [10:37] |
| mike-burns | Yeah that's what I mean. | [10:38] |
| heavysixer | yeh. | [10:38] |
| mike-burns | Hoptoad is pretty sweet, IMO.
If you have exceptions, which I'm sure you don't. | [10:38] |
| heavysixer | mike-burns: never ;-)
mike-burns: yeah we looked at it since pledgie is a free service we can't afford hosted products yet :-) we get a free tender and lighthouse account that's why we have those otherwise we wouldn't | [10:40] |
| mike-burns | There's a free Hoptoad account for one project. | [10:41] |
| heavysixer | oh?
mike-burns: do you guys do datamining? are the exceptions private only to the project owner we filter sensitive params where possible but i worry about it sometimes. | [10:41] |
| mike-burns | https://hoptoadapp.com/account/new - the free account has one project, two users, and a "rate limit" of 5.
We don't look at the data. Unless you report a bug, then we look at your username. | [10:42] |
| heavysixer | gotcha | [10:42] |
| mike-burns | We also filter passwords and CC info from your data as best as we can.
We really don't like that kind of responsibility. :) | [10:43] |
| heavysixer | cool
yeah it's a business you don't want to get mixed up in that's for sure. | [10:43] |
| mike-burns | We'd rather deal with DB and scaling issues instead of CC and law issues. | [10:44] |
| heavysixer | right | [10:45] |
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| up_the_irons | mike-burns: I had issues with fonts an vim as well. Fortunately, with urxvt, I found out how to configure xft fonts so if I want to go with a smooth anti-aliased font, it is there. xft fonts are also used by gvim, so I essentially get the exact same "look" between vim and gvim
DaCa: terminus font, eh? you should post a screenshot toddf: thanks for the "live action" commit ;) sroute: glad to hear the config is rockin! heavysixer: wait, u know mike-burns? | [13:19] |
| amdprophet | up_the_irons: I'm absolutely loving the VPS. It's a huge step up from VPSLink.
ZFS is working great too | [13:22] |
| up_the_irons | amdprophet: glad to hear!! | [13:24] |
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| mike-burns | up_the_irons: I think heavysixer knows me from #thoughtbot. | [14:41] |
| up_the_irons | mike-burns: gotcha | [14:42] |
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| DaCa | up_the_irons: http://daca.info/2009-12-11-002432_1024x576_scrot.png | [15:30] |
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| up_the_irons | DaCa: i like it
DaCa: show us the whole desktop (not just the window). that's terminus font, no? cd $lunch | [15:43] |
| DaCa | that's the whole desktop, I am on a netbook currently :) | [15:44] |
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| DaCa | xdm->cwm->xterm->tmux # all is from base except the font :) | [15:47] |
| up_the_irons | DaCa: oh nice!
DaCa: what netbook? been thinking of getting one cd $lunch-for-real | [15:48] |
| DaCa | I got the compaq mini (hp mini in the us) because I found it to have the best keyboard
actually had a bit trouble convincing the seller at mediamarkt that I really wanted that one and not the 20 euro cheaper acer aspire one with double ram and faster atom chipset but crappy keyboard | [15:50] |
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| sroute | up_the_irons just finished moving a swack of stuff to that config. no surprises. very nice. | [16:11] |
| DaCa | up_the_irons: here is the smallest terminus size, not so beautiful but still much better than fixed at same size: http://daca.info/2009-12-11-010935_1024x576_scrot.png | [16:17] |
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| toddf | daca: I still like my 5x7 better, its more legible imho *grin* although admittedly your colors are brighter than mine ... I attempt to reduce annoying ambient light when my wife is sleeping (I say attempt, because it never works *sigh*) | [16:21] |
| DaCa | up_the_irons: and here one of the bigger for presentations: http://daca.info/2009-12-11-011107_1024x576_scrot.png | [16:21] |
| toddf | heh, that does look nice for people who have to ask for the font to be larger.. | [16:22] |
| DaCa | there are larger ones, but that's the largest I have in my xterm Xresources, there are only 6 slots :) | [16:24] |
| sroute | Seems console jocks work in the dark a lot. Ditto, although I am bannished to a basement office so waking my wife isn't an issue
s/bannished/banished | [16:25] |
| DaCa | I live with cats, they don't mind :) | [16:26] |
| sroute | sroute wishes he could still look at tiny fonts. Aging is crap!
I'm using a relatively large Deja Vu Sans Mono at 12 point. Or Google's "Droid Sans Mono" at 12 points in gvim hmnn, maybe new glasses and I could drop down a point. add to #TODO | [16:26] |
| jeev | heh
people are so picky i used securecrt on windows for 5 years with default shit till i realized i can use xterm and a black screen and it'd look elite and easier on my eyes | [16:33] |
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| jeev | jesus man i'm tired of fixing my friends outlook when he reaches a 2gb limit or whatever
why can't he just switch to thunderbird | [18:49] |
| sroute | or mutt
lol | [18:56] |
| jeev | na | [18:56] |
| mike-burns | "Oh you're hardcore. ... I used mutt back in the day. ..." - everyone who has ever seen me use mutt. They then tell me all about how they used mutt and loved it and feel nostalgic for it now. | [18:57] |
| jeev | Time is 6:58pm, computer has been up for 1w 5d 7h 43m 44s
well, it's that time i've been avoiding these windows vista updates. im tired of closing EVERYTHING down i have 20+ ssh sessions a couple notepad todo's and other stuff open and i hate having to reboot bbiab | [18:57] |
| up_the_irons | jeev: use screen | [19:06] |
| toddf | jeev: use !microsoft | [19:10] |
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| jeev | ahh, did some cleaning up | [19:28] |
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| jeev | anyone from sweden or norway? | [19:59] |
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| sroute | ditto on screen and !microsoft. | [22:08] |
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| sroute | mike-burns - I still use Mutt myself, and a web app when on the road; It appeals to me because I prefer to write with vim. Throw in abook for addresses and a little integration futzing and it does the job I need it to do.
too bad browsing is so click-friendly. | [22:13] |
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