up_the_irons: dollar sroute: Dollar probably better than grey hair. Think I'll end up with both today.
... although at least I still have it. Hair that is.
man, it's cold in the office tonight, think I'm going to tidy up and go to sleep for a change. Artic air coming too close to Vancouver up_the_irons: yeah it's really cold here as well jeev: god people are so stupid up_the_irons: you sound surprised jeev: i'm reading comments for the canal kililng thing
some people are saying the soldiers should stay in jail
others are saying "you dont know what it feels like to be in war.. it's kill or be killed"
stupid morons
you attacked a country which was no threat to you, did nothing to you, killed a million plus and then you're scared that you're there? sroute: where do you live jeev? (region, city) jeev: i'm in cali
probably blocks from up_the_irons.
los angeles up_the_irons: he lives real close to me jeev: singlegirl
If you don't think these Iraqi's are terrorists, then you have some serious issues...
who is that moron ? sroute: roger jeev: what is a singlegirl doing giving her two cents
i'm glad i'm seeing a lot of people writing "they're doing what you and i would be doing if anyone invaded the U.S." (when speaking bout the "insurgents")
i need a tv/radio show.
Raijin2004
Hope that you can justify your words when another 9/11 happens.
hhahahahahah
i can't beliee people still think iraqi's were behind 9/11
it's amazing
i wanna squeeze my fists and face and scream like a girl sroute: that is surprising, after all these years.
what are you watching / reading? jeev: was reading comments on cnn's site about the killings at the canal
you hear of it ? sroute: Oddly, no, I didn't. Must admit I've not turned on CNN or US news in some time... and I'm a real news junkie. We have enough of our own crap going on up here in Canada at present. jeev: i liked this chick in high school, the middle one
http://bill.kall700sports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/p1_usc.song.girls.jpg
sroute, iraqi detainees were taken and executed at a canal causing turning them in would take a while to gather evidence and they'd "likely be back on the streets shooting at them again" sroute: girl - what's not to like about girls in short dresses! canal - found some links on that. up_the_irons: does one think the fact that I preserve the FreeBSD default slices (separate /, /usr, /var, etc...) in the default install is of any consequence? Like, if I just made one big root (/) and swap, then called it a day, would anyone notice? On OpenBSD and Linux images, I just have one big root. Haven't got any complaints. *Not* preserving the FreeBSD defaults and just having a big root makes
resizing somewhat easier jeev: up_the_irons
i'd LOVE /
i'd complain but i dont want to send an email to you, att may see it as extra bandwidth and cap me ;) up_the_irons: so +1 from jeev on a single / sroute: up_the_irons: I'm not all that fussy about having the default slice arrangement when there is only one disk involved, and particularly when its a virtual disk at that, so it if makes life easier for you...
s/disk/disc/
I'm ambivalent or +1 depending on which way the wind blows, hesitating only because I've not got the brain power at this time of night to guess what might trip other folks up.
maybe nothing. probably. up_the_irons: i would bet nothing sroute: think so. nothing rings a bell. up_the_irons: on OpenBSD, they didn't have any defaults before 4.6, so I just used a big / and swap. Never got a complaint. With Debian and Ubuntu, I also just made a big root and swap, b/c their defaults are kinda dumb. Again, no complaints sroute: yup. And having /root, /boot and even /tmp off of a big / will reduce problems for less experienced admins.
... who find themselves filling one of those filesystems up ... up_the_irons: right sroute: lol gives them more time to get into trouble of course up_the_irons: haha jeev: i need to ugprade
in place upgrade 32 bit to 64bit
i read some things
it'll break some shit but i can recompile those ***: Nat_UB has quit IRC (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
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I know I did, but then again, not many people are like me, from the era when /,/usr,/var,/tmp,/var/tmp,/home,/usr/X11R6,and /usr/local all fit comfortably in a 1gb disk
personally I can't tolorate anything less than '/,/usr,/var,/tmp,/home' but thats because I understand the implications of separating writable areas from system binaries and that those mount points permit /home and /tmp and /var from needing suid or dev mount options as well as /tmp symlink games with /etc .. to mention a few obvious issues, further security..
I completely understand that from your perspective, one / is going to be most efficient both in terms of setup time and in terms of support time; anything more complicated and the customer can serve themselves. If you had stomache and fortitude like me you'd do the minimum slices for security reasons, but that would require some resistance to / only as default, perhaps even clearly stating defaults and how easy it is to change if other partitio
but seeing as I'm not you, .. I'm just glad to have OpenBSD listed as supported ;-) ***: Nat_UB has joined #arpnetworks
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baklava- has joined #arpnetworks jeev: anyone get a flight frmo orbitz? dbgi-: up_the_irons are you around? islandfox: up_the_irons: first email I sent was Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:01:47 -0600 ("VM Management Server"), next Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:41:40 -0600 ("Custom disk image"), third Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:36:31 -0600 ("Re: Custom disk image [Support]")
up_the_irons: did one/some of those not make it? toddf: jeev: whenever searching for flights I always search a lot, kayak.com is my latest trophy for searching for good flight prices jeev: yea i use it up_the_irons: islandfox: I replied to both of those, did you not get them? islandfox: up_the_irons: hmm, only saw one reply, from Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:40:41 -0800
didn't see evidence of any other messages in my logs dbgi-: up_the_irons do you mind if i pm you? up_the_irons: islandfox: http://support.arpnetworks.com/discussions/support/789-vm-management-server ***: Nat_UB has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: cd $office dbgi-: yes? no?
ok nvm then islandfox: up_the_irons: got it, thanks! not sure why I'm only receiving some of your emails, odd, it's unfiltered... ***: Nat_UB has quit IRC (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
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dja has joined #arpnetworks jeev: that sprint gps sharing shit is crazy ***: Mystikal has joined #arpnetworks Mystikal: email sent ***: markofvero has joined #arpnetworks markofvero: hi... can anyone tell me if we can or will be able to run NetBSD on an ARP Networks VPS?
I know it currently isn't 'supported'
but does that mean we simply can't / aren't allowed to
or just that ARP Networks won't be held responsible for what happens to our data, etc., should we choose to do so? toddf: markofvero: it probably means there hasn't been enough demand for it that ARP Networks has setup a template install
I suspect if you provided an iso image you'd be permitted to install from it, the VM's are KVM so if there's anything netbsd doesn't do properly under linux KVM that'd be your biggest concern markofvero: would there be a way to boot the NetBSD installer outside of the template install system, in that case? (I'm not a customer yet, unfamiliar with the ARP system)
ah, thanks toddf: I'm not aware that ARP Networks does backup of vm images, I expect its my responsibility to safeguard my data in ways other than depending on my lifes history to stay safe on a VM
the concept of the template install system is simply .. ARP Networks installing a given OS and rev which saves ARP Networks time when bringing up a VM for you by copying the template and making basic IP configuration adjustments etc
if in doubt, support@arpnetworks.com is a good place to submit your request jeev: hey todd
what's up toddf: me apparently ;-) jeev: my kvm server is still idling bah
smashed up toddf: so I heard jeev: i need to upgrade 7.2 32bit to 7.2 64bit
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-February/048368.html
scared to try toddf: inside KVM or outside? jeev: outside
brb toddf: on OpenBSD it'd be as simple as copying in amd64/bsd.rd and booting it since /boot on amd64 or i386 can boot amd64 or i386 kernels jeev: heh
this will be easy, i'd have to just rebuild ports ***: dja has quit IRC ("This computer has gone to sleep")
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ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen ballen: ping jeev: pong ballen: always around aren't ya jeev: always near a computer
;) ballen: heh yea
snowed a foot since 4PM today jeev: the computer is to me what coffee is to you ballen: supposed to snow till 2 or 3 tomorrow
computer wakes you up? Keeps you up? jeev: yep ballen: excites your mind
provides euphoria in unexplained ways? jeev: coffee doesn't do squat to me
i just drink it cause i can make it sweet ballen: cup a day keeps the doctor away jeev: hahaha ballen: i have a half a mil of new hardware to setup in two weeks... jeev: crazy
what's it for, work ? ballen: yea
genomics work jeev: ahh ballen: fun stuff
two Sun M4000s tanked today
two weeks old
pretty sure a power blip fucked up the internal drives somehow jeev: sun still uses sparC
?
or produces ballen: yea those are jeev: is it even beneficial? sparc?
what's the benefits nowadays ballen: who knows
its just heavy duty hardware... all they're doing is being array controllers
btw I didn't design these systems
such a waste
lets throw a 32GB quad core spare machine... that prolly cost 50k a pop and attach an array
and make it a fucking nas jeev: heh ballen: oh and 15k sas drives
for the array
450 gig ones
bet those were cheap jeev: send me one ballen: heh
only cool thing about them are the XSCF management modules
basically a complete computer to manage the computer jeev: ah
good thing i work for myself ballen: yea
would be nice jeev: so i have something going live and i'm not ready for it
i should get to work ? ballen: prolly jeev: but i'm lazy ballen: good enough
for me
just was thinking I should go brush me teeth... and amazon shows a recommended item of a sonic care toothbrush.... creepy jeev: yea
i had a more creepy incidence with a phone call.
spoke bout something, next morning.. woke up, that something was ..
lets just say, unbelievable.
ok i'm really getting annoyed at firefox
it's taking so much ram, i know i run vista
but it just grows after usage and shit, nothing else does
why does it leak so much up_the_irons: markofvero: I simply never got around to making NetBSD templates. I don't know how stable NetBSD will be (it might be perfect, just never tried) mick_laptop: jeev: perhaps time to upgrade your OS? ;) jeev: yea, to windows 7
when i get ssd for my desktop
im using that swwhatever iron
google chrome without privacy issues
it's fast up_the_irons: man, /dev/ttyu0 on FreeBSD 8.0 doesn't seem to actually work... jeev: anyone hear about that global warming thing -: nerdd is from Denmark.. COP15 has been all over the news for the past 6 months here.