[04:00] * up_the_irons drops a pin
[05:02] <Rada> Just referred your VPS to someone from #not-##freebsd
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[08:48] <jeev> amazon s3 is now in LA
[08:48] <jeev> they say norcal but trace shows la
[08:48] <jeev> 49% [=========================================================================================================> ] 84,705,627 3.52M/s eta 19s
[08:48] <jeev> from arp
[08:48] <jeev> 10.2mb/s from my 100mbit heretoo
[09:24] <mhoran> Nice.
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[14:01] <up_the_irons> hycer: that link had me LOL'ing so hard
[14:01] <up_the_irons> Rada: haha, what's #not-##freebsd ? ;)
[14:19] <sroute> LOL nouptime.com love it
[14:21] <sroute> I especially like the support form! http://www.nouptime.com/support
[14:21] <sroute> The letter 'B' is not allowed for technical reasons.
[14:21] * sroute makes a note to write something like this and put it on line on April 1st.
[14:22] <sroute> might not warn clients LOL
[14:22] <up_the_irons> sroute: the support form is the best
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[16:59] <dja> FreeBSD 8.0 not a choice yet?
[17:01] <up_the_irons> dja: soon
[17:02] <up_the_irons> dja: I'm making some templates tonight for testing
[17:03] <dja> if I order now, and put in the "any other info" that I want freebsd 8.0 will that avoid me having to wait for the order page to be updated?
[17:05] <dja> also whats the maximum number of cores a VPS can have? I assume 8 since you use dual 4 core xeons
[17:05] <up_the_irons> dja: yes, but it will also delay the order b/c 8.0 hasn't been fully tested; i imagine it will work fine, but i wouldn't want to sell something i haven't tested
[17:05] <up_the_irons> dja: 8 is the max
[17:06] <dja> ok, well the tech I want is only available in 8-STABLE, so I will be updated from 8.0 to 8-STABLE anyway, just figured it would be easier than updating from 7.2
[17:08] <up_the_irons> yeah perhaps
[17:08] <dja> I assume theres no restrictions on what can run on the server, I didnt see anything in the acceptable use policy anyway
[17:09] <up_the_irons> dja: no restrictions, just has to be legal
[17:10] <dja> thats fine, I will eventually get 4 VPSs (if all goes well), starting with 2, 1 for dev, 1 for production.. hosting game and chat servers.. I know some providers dont like them
[17:10] <sroute> Garry is the vnc access to the console down?
[17:12] <sroute> up_the_irons: for some reason i can't connect; my vm isn't coming back up clean.
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[17:14] <up_the_irons> dja: games and chat?  sounds like fun to me :)
[17:15] <dja> yeah, for some reason another bsd vps provider wouldnt allow it, policy against chat servers :(
[17:15] <up_the_irons> sroute: no alerts.  is it hanging upon connection?  if so, you have it open somewhere else.  to completely kill old connections, either find them on your end, or do a "Shutdown (hard)" from the console or portal, then subsequent "Boot"
[17:15] <up_the_irons> dja: yeah, against IRC right?  lots of providers have a stigma about that
[17:15] <up_the_irons> rootbsd won't allow it
[17:15] <dja> yeah, we use IRC for the chat in the game
[17:15] <dja> yeah rootbsd was who we originally were going with
[17:15] <up_the_irons> cool
[17:16] <up_the_irons> who else is there.. bsdvm, um...
[17:16] <up_the_irons> not sure their policy
[17:16] <ballen> up_the_irons: can DRBD do master to multi-slave replication
[17:16] <up_the_irons> john companies, also dunno their policy.  if u can get past their order form, you've accomplished something great ;)
[17:17] <dja> heh they were rather expensive IIRC
[17:17] <up_the_irons> ballen: it might in -current, definitely not in -stable
[17:17] <up_the_irons> dja: yup
[17:17] <sroute> up_the_irons: hmmn, back in.
[17:17] <up_the_irons> sroute: sweet
[17:17] <ballen> shaiat, know of anything that does that
[17:17] <up_the_irons> ballen: like multiple replication of block devices?
[17:18] <up_the_irons> ballen: can iscsi do that?
[17:18] <ballen> umm
[17:18] <ballen> not that i know of
[17:18] <ballen> want the data to live on each server
[17:18] <up_the_irons> nothing is coming to mind
[17:18] <ballen> doesn't have to be writable on each server though
[17:18] <up_the_irons> yeah
[17:18] <ballen> hmm
[17:18] <up_the_irons> ballen: oh, AoE
[17:19] <up_the_irons> just be ABSOLUTELY sure none of the slaves can write
[17:19] <up_the_irons> oh wait, but...
[17:19] <ballen> is there actually replication though?
[17:19] <ballen> or just mounted the same drive
[17:19] <up_the_irons> if the master doesn't always do a fsync, the slaves won't see changes right away, fail
[17:19] <up_the_irons> ballen: yeah, would just mount the same drive.. so no....
[17:20] <ballen> hmm damn
[17:20] <up_the_irons> ballen: but it kinda seems the replication factor and seeing the same disk on different nodes is kinda independent
[17:20] <ballen> true
[17:20] <ballen> really only replication is needed
[17:21] <ballen> preferably "live"
[17:21] <sroute> up_the_irons: you can ignore the last support thread msg I added; while I have not made a vnc connection in weeks (nothing open this side) it wasn't connecting; now both vnc and all regular services are. Strange, never seen that before. I have been noting some local network issues to a different path (central US); that may be at play here.
[17:21] <up_the_irons> ballen: drbd is the only thing i know for live replication of block devices
[17:22] <up_the_irons> sroute: ah ok
[17:22] <sroute> although if you peek at the note you'll see why it came down in the first place ;-)
[17:22] * up_the_irons peaks
[17:23] <up_the_irons> sroute: don't ya hate it when that happens ;)
[17:26] <sroute> for sure. I run "make" in so many contexts all day long so that one just flew off my fingers without thinking.
[17:27] <sroute> Must be time for a beer.
[17:27] <ballen> where the hell is my chapstick
[17:27] <sroute> ???
[17:27] <ballen> ?
[17:28] <ballen> can't find it
[17:28] <ballen> lips are chapped
[17:28] <ballen> scratch that found it
[17:29] <sroute> speaking of searching for things... I just finished spending a heart-wrenching 45 minutes searching for my wallet; was just about to start calling credit card companies when I thought to look in my kid's pack and sure enough, it had slid in an open pocket when I took him to the doctors for an appointment this am.
[17:30] <sroute> So I really am going to crack a beer now and order pizza for the four pre-teen boys upstairs so I can get some work done.
[17:30] <ballen> mmk
[17:30] * sroute is getting nervous, they are remarkably quiet right now
[17:31] <ballen> they're plotting
[17:31] <ballen> or looking at playboys
[17:33] <sroute> no playboys around here, pretty sure of that. They don't seem interested much in girls just yet. 9, 10, 11, 12 year olds; probably the 12 year olds will change that next year in grade 8. sigh.
[17:33] <ballen> ah
[17:33] <ballen> hmm
[17:34] <ballen> yea don't remember what kinda crap I was getting into that young
[17:34] <ballen> I know shortly after that 14-15... was when I was getting myself into trouble
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[20:44] <jeev> i drank so much coffee today it put me to sleep
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[23:15] <sroute> I don't find, except on only a very rare occasion these days, that coffee keeps me awake. Wish it did...
[23:19] <jeev> yea it fails big time for me
[23:22] <ballen> coffee doesn't really keep me awake, but it does wake me up in the morning
[23:34] <up_the_irons> you guys just aren't drinking enough
[23:35] <up_the_irons> http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/5048/brute-force.jpg
[23:47] <jeev> that's america's answer for everything
[23:57] <sroute> up_the_irons: lol lol