[00:50] what's everyone doin' this saturday night [02:42] *** ballen has quit IRC ("Leaving...") [03:52] *** schmir has joined #arpnetworks [03:52] up_the_irons: trying to install arch from cd. it doesn't find the root device. [03:52] any tips? [03:53] ahh.now is see your mail... [03:58] up_the_irons: I need a dns server ip. [04:05] found it in the knowledge base... [07:10] up_the_irons: I have it running now. [07:11] up_the_irons: do you want to create a copy? 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[15:49] Nov 29 15:45:55 pear savecore: reboot after panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc [15:49] Nov 29 15:45:55 pear savecore: writing core to vmcore.0 [15:50] Nov 29 15:45:55 pear kernel: mode = 0177777, inum = 3514472, fs = /usr [15:50] Nov 29 15:45:55 pear kernel: panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc [15:50] Nov 29 15:45:55 pear kernel: cpuid = 1 [15:50] Nov 29 15:45:55 pear kernel: Uptime: 39d1h35m16s [15:50] I was running a Django test suite on it, moderate load on postgresql. FYI Garry. [16:08] sroute: interesting. I've seen that ffs_valloc problem in i386 FreeBSD kernels under a lot of disk I/O. I actually had wondered how you got around it ;) I guess you are not immune either [16:08] this is why my default installs are amd64 [16:08] at least, i haven't seen that problem with the amd64 kernels [16:09] schmir: thanks for the offer to copy; i actually want to do the install myself so I learn more about Arch. Can you just tell me how you got it to recognize /dev/vda as a valid device within their installer menu? I couldn't get anything to show up. I guess I could just use fdisk, mkfs, and skip that part [16:17] up_the_irons: no. I did a install using only pacman [16:17] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_From_Existing_Linux [16:18] schmir: ah ok, cool [16:19] schmir: so you just used the shell the install disk dropped you into and did the whole install starting from there? [16:20] up_the_irons: yes. I'v partioned /dev/vda, mke2fs, and mounted it on /r [16:20] schmir: cool [16:20] mkdir -p /r//var/lib/pacman [16:20] pacman -Sy base -r /r [16:20] I did use the install system to configure the network... [16:20] before. [16:22] added MODULES="virtio_net virtio_console virtio_balloon virtio_blk virtio_pci" into /r/etc/mkinitcpio.conf [16:24] and installed grub (which somehow involves copying /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* to /boot/grub for stage1,...) [16:25] then I installed the kernel again in order to generate new initrd images [16:26] (I don't know the command to do that directly though) [16:27] up_the_irons: you don't need pacman.static as you're booting from the livecd [16:28] up_the_irons: ok, that is interesting ... I must have missed the memo ;) [16:28] schmir: thanks for all the great info [16:29] I suppose I'll have to do a rebuilt one of these days and move to amd64 [16:29] sroute: i figured that you weren't affected, since you had make your own kernel and such, perhaps something changed. It wasn't really a big pain point, so I never mentioned it. Never seen it w/ amd64 and no one asks for i386 ;) [16:29] I can't even recally why I'm on i386 to be honest [16:30] probably asked for it at the time for reason of comparison with some older hardware I have; I just can't remember and the reason isn't in my notes. [16:31] up_the_irons: no problem. [16:34] up_the_irons: my last hurdle was that I forgot to modify /etc/fstab. [16:34] sroute: if you ever want to change, just let me know. right now your proc is i686, but i can change it to x86_64 and your VM should boot normally still. Then you can use either 32-bit or 64-bit kernels at your leisure [16:34] schmir: ah [16:34] should be pretty easy for you now... [16:35] base config is in /etc/rc.conf [16:35] up_the_irons: thanks - why don't you switch it then at your leisure - I've taken down anything of note for the time being already, and I'll do some backing up and get ready for a rebuild. [16:35] and you'll probably want to run rankmirrors when building an official image [16:36] schmir: ah, nice [16:37] sroute: i can do it now if you like, just need to reboot it [16:37] great, go for it. [16:39] sroute: doin' it [16:41] sroute: done [16:41] Thanks very much. If only everything was that easy! [16:41] (particularly renovating kitchens) [16:42] srsly [16:44] should the line in dmesg read differently: CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 (2648.37-MHz 686-class CPU) [16:50] not sure [16:50] from one of my VMs: [16:50] CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 (5431.79-MHz K8-class CPU) [16:50] LOL, that's a fast proc ;) I think it is reporting / detecting wrong [16:50] another VM: [16:51] CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 (4587.73-MHz K8-class CPU) [17:48] *** schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [18:38] heh [18:40] up_the_irons, you test the unixbench-wht comparison on 7.2 and 8.0 on your server? [18:52] up_the_irons, might I suggest you add the X install sets to your openbsd image? no real reason I can think of not to, and some packages/ports depend on X. [18:53] X on a server? Are you using it as a X server? [18:54] packages like java require it.. [18:55] not that it's hard to install them. it's just a few tarballs. just a thought. [18:56] I don't know OpenBSD well enough to suggest how you get around that requirement, but that does seem suspicious since FreeBSD's Java doesn't require it. [19:05] I haven't touched FreeBSD since I think it was 4.2. Anyway, packages are the 'supported' method for 3rd party software install and I figure why build something if I don't have to. [19:06] I was quite surprised to see IPv6 supported on these VPSs. Good to see. [19:32] *** baklava has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [19:56] expat [19:56] is distributed [19:56] as part of [19:56] the `xbase' set [19:56] hence [ ... ] [19:56] at least [19:56] since 4.3 [20:04] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [20:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [20:50] *** ballen|away is now known as ballen [21:08] ewww install X on a server [21:09] seems there would be lib packages that would satisfy java [21:40] the problem is (for for example java) they can't distribute packages (binaries of ports) because of license reasons, so you have to build them from ports [21:41] xbase and xetc is enough, you don't need the other x* sets [21:42] then again, I don't think it should be in the default image, those who need it can just add it by untarring the sets manually [21:44] yep [22:12] i need to be efficient damnit [22:12] An efficient damnit ? [22:14] i'm not efficient, i'm not doing everything i need to be doing [22:23] When I'm not being efficient usually it is because I'm doing things I ought not to be doing (at that time) [22:23] A common occurence ;-( [22:23] i do that all day man [22:23] Actually I meant ;-) because you have to find ways to allow for distractions without taking over [22:24] i find myself reading dslreports most of the work day [22:24] not most.. but you know [22:24] looking around thew eb [22:25] need more interesting work then [22:25] or more todo :-) [22:26] got a lot to do, no motivation [22:26] then more interesting work [22:27] if you believed the project you're working on will one day make LOTS..... LOTS [22:28] lets just assume, a billion dollars [22:28] that's not interesting ? [22:32] If you have a legitimate shot at making a major impact, that ought to be plenty of motivation. [22:32] impact/dollars [22:33] yea i've got issues. [22:33] i cant believe i still lack motivation [22:33] work on that project hasn't *officially* begun anyway [22:33] yea [22:33] But one has to actually believe in the potential; have a realistic view on the potential; and believe they have an appropriate plan to get there. [22:33] the business i should be completing now is one that'll bring in just a few million /year [22:34] and it's proven [22:34] i have one that is finishing this weak, another 3 that i need to START.. one of those will probably take a year heh [22:34] Well then get on with it! Not chump change (assuming your costs aren't "a few million /year less 100$" [22:35] oh, cost is nothing heh [22:35] excellent [22:35] i just hope the economy doesn't hurt it [22:35] it was tested a few years back, got good return.. satisfied customers [22:35] Economy here seems ... Ok. [22:35] it's not fully a necessity but could be.. [22:35] it really depends on economy [22:35] i dont care if it starts slow as long as it brings in at least 10 or 20k a month in the beginning [22:36] competition does 3M but does't have 5% of what i have [22:36] and i'm not sure if they've fluffed those numbers [22:37] why is it so damn difficult to get a good deal on a microwave online [22:37] lol [22:38] appliances need to be marketed like tech items [22:38] bestbuy kind of does [22:38] bestbuy sucks [22:38] but their prices are always high anyways so discounts there are useless [22:40] anyone have a free shipping coupon to Sears.com? [22:40] or know where to look for one [22:42] check freeshipping.org [22:55] so a side thing, i need to get off my ass and do this data entry system [22:55] and i' still too lazy [23:20] blovett: thanks for the suggestion, but I prefer to keep the default installs as minimal as possible. Customer can add more if necessary, but most people prefer just the base + SSH [23:22] jeev: I have to admit working on complex forms is probably my least favorite task [23:23] 1.6 or 2.0 cu ft microwave.... now this is the question [23:25] ballen: depends on how much microwaved food you eat [23:26] i would think... [23:26] meh not really that much [23:26] use the toaster oven the most [23:26] i c [23:26] mostly use microwave for heating up drinks, reheat left overs, etc [23:27] i re-heat coffee [23:27] ew [23:27] reheated coffee is gross [23:29] i don't mean like from 24 hours ago cold... i drink slow, so sometimes when i have only 25% left, I need a little bit of a re-heat [23:29] still gross [23:30] death [23:30] to [23:30] coffee [23:30] had a raspberry mocha at like 7.. wide awake [23:30] n e tea [23:31] tea is good too [23:40] *** diatribes has joined #arpnetworks