***: [FBI] has joined #arpnetworks nc__: lol up_the_irons: sroute: man, your blog post musta worked cuz now search results for "freebsd vps" have me at #3. Was previously at #4. w00t
sroute: and your actual blog post is on the 2nd page
google indexes fast
sroute: oh whoa, your blog is syndicated to planet python? NICE nc__: hey
why is it that doing passwd as root doesn't change the root pwd?
ah i figured out why heh up_the_irons: nc__: on openbsd, that's just the default nc__: yeah just typing passwd without passwd root was changing my username's password up_the_irons: sroute: btw, you're spot in your last two paragraphs. For the record, I enjoy managing server and network hardware; my services appeal to command line people; and my target market *is* people who know what they are doing
nc__: yup
sroute: s/spot/spot on/ nc__: ah cool
up_the_irons: for rebooting can i just `reboot` like i would anywhere else? up_the_irons: nc__: yup nc__: sweet up_the_irons: nc__: if you ever recompile your kernel though (or upgrade), read this: http://scie.nti.st/2009/10/4/running-openbsd-4-5-in-kvm-on-ubuntu-linux-9-04 nc__: up_the_irons: great, i bookmarked it. thanks :> up_the_irons: np ***: RonnyBarber has joined #arpnetworks
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ballen has quit IRC (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) nc__: up_the_irons: hey when you're back, could you add a ptr record for my hostname? up_the_irons: nc__: email support@arpnetworks.com with the details nc__: up_the_irons: what info should i submit? just the hostname? up_the_irons: nc__: hostname and IP
nc__: always including your VM UUID in support tickets, is also useful RonnyBarber: up_the_irons: is my vps running daylight saving time?
i just set the timezone to my region but its 1 hour behind.
i'll try gmt+1 instead of cest/amsterdam :-) nc__: :-( up_the_irons: RonnyBarber: it should see the hardware clock as set to utc nc__: up_the_irons: thanks, sent up_the_irons: np RonnyBarber: ok ***: RonnyBarber has quit IRC ("changing hosts")
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ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen ballen: happy Thanksgiving sroute: Apparently thanksgiving in the 1700s was quite a bit different than it is today.
"Groups of men, crossdressing, who called themselves the Fantastics or Fantasticals, masqueraded on Thanksgiving beginning in the 1780s. . . Subsequently the Fantastics copied these and other elements of English mumming, such as drunkenness and ridiculing authority . . . An editorial in a Pennsylvania newspaper in 1870 defended the Fantastics, on the grounds that "it is better to be merry than sad,
and if, as some genial writer asserts, a good hearty laugh takes a nail out of your coffin, a parade of the fantasticals can not fail to lessen the bills of mortality." ' ***: heavysixer has quit IRC () jeev: thanksgiving is gay[09:29] <vxp> ^
http://pastebin.ca/1688380 there is the 7.2 vs 8.0 benchmark comparison on my own server here ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer sroute: thanks for the bench results jeev. Seems to be some serious improvement in file performance
did you update an existing 7.2 install (i.e. you cared enough to ru mergemaster)? Any issues? jeev: no
7.2 was better than 8.0
fresh install, soft updates
both were fresh installs. ***: heavysixer has quit IRC () sroute: jeev: egads, I'd better start sleeping soon, read it upside down. jeev: this sucks sroute: I'm not in a hurry to move myself. ***: BarberRonny has quit IRC ("brb")
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ballen is now known as ballen|away jeev: yum ballen, coffee
with really good creamer up_the_irons: sroute: number #2 on bing? LOL. Not sure those guys are my target audience, but hey, I wasn't in the results *at all* last time I checked (maybe a month ago)
so it's all good jeev: bing is stupid ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer mick_laptop: if i need to upgrade to another type of account - will it be a PITA - or will it be a fairly sain procedure? jeev: i know raising ram is easy mick_laptop: i'm going to be deploying mod_security and I'd like to see how CPU intensive it really will be on the server jeev: unless if it's already reached it's amount on the server
so you're curious about dual cpu ?
if he offers it, it should be a -smp 2 or something. up_the_irons: jeev: this is what I got on fbsd 7.2: http://pastie.org/716654
one of my personal VMs jeev: yea, -smp 1 ?
or -smp 2 up_the_irons: yeah only 1 proc jeev: shit
what proc up_the_irons: mick_laptop: upgrading is easy; only hard part is extending the disk volume, which takes about 10 minutes of downtime mick_laptop: i just want to see that if I need to upgrade from one account that it will not be too much of a deal (I've already ordered so either way I'll see for myself) :) -- depends on the traffic i guess. also if I take up more bandwidth, I hope that I'll just get charged more nc__: :( up_the_irons: RAM and CPU changes just require a reboot. IP changes require no reboot mick_laptop: instead of some mod_bandwidth middlefinger :) nc__: :( mick_laptop: up_the_irons: thanks for the info jeev: up_the_irons, can't tel if my 7.2 was -smp 1 or not, the original i had that scored 90, i'll assume so
what processor up_the_irons: mick_laptop: oh yeah, for sure, we don't slowdown or shut off a VPS just cuz it went over (unless this is actually requested). You just get charged overage
jeev: L5430 vxp: qwat about bandwidth overage
out of mere
curiousity ***: heavysixer has quit IRC () nc__: $2 per megabyte over jeev: that's verizon nc__: true jeev: i'm gonna do -smp 1 and check now mick_laptop: and i take it that debian installs are just the base system, right?
no xorg etc up_the_irons: yeah, just base
only SSH added mick_laptop: sweet
:) nc__: :( up_the_irons: i'm very much into minimal installs
man, someone just placed an order for Arch Linux
i don't have any Arch templates
(b/c no one orders it ;) nc__: ;( up_the_irons: time to do an Arch install schmir: hehe. that was me up_the_irons: haha
and by that i mean, think about doing the Arch install that i'll have to do later after the family disperses schmir: do you use 32 or 64 bit installs? up_the_irons: 64 bit
i've found it to be more stable
at least w/ freebsd
vxp: bandwidth overage is generally charged at $0.15 per GB schmir: ok. I stopped using freebsd with 4.11.
do people really order openbsd? or would you need to create an image for that too?
:) nc__: :(
schmir: i just ordered openbsd schmir: guess it's a busy evening for him then :) nc__: :(
oh i ordered it last night hehe schmir: ok. good night people and happy thanksgiving. ***: schmir has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) up_the_irons: yeah actually openbsd is popular
oh he left
not as popular as freebsd obviously, but i do get consistent orders for openbsd
i leave you guys with: http://twitter.com/bsdvps/status/6098426866
back to eating and drinking jeev: shit mine sores a 74
E5420, bah
maybe you beat me cause you got sexy hard drives, i just have 10k rpm sas
what's dm
i wonder if i should send this server back to the datacenter or put it here in LA ***: ballen|away is now known as ballen jeev: ballen
what's up nowadays
is coffee good or bad for you
it changes daily, need to get a ticker ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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ballen|away is now known as ballen mick_laptop: i placed an order this morning and I haven't gotten a confirmation email back, is that normal?
i know that vps accounts are provisioned at night - so I'm hoping that it will be soon, but I want to know if I need to re-place an order or something jeev: hmm mick_laptop: since normally you get some type of an email
[20:14] <jeev> i dont remember if i got a sign up email jeev: maybe you could email support@ just to ask mick_laptop: will do jeev: i'm avoiding guests, i ate these people
hate mick_laptop: i saw that thank you screen
lol ***: ballen is now known as ballen|away mick_laptop: jeev: that is why you call them family :P
at least you only need to see them 1x a year (maybe 2x)
;) nc__: ;( jeev: they're extended, family in law.. and i'm serious when i say i hope their car falls off the mountain as they drive home mick_laptop: then when the police check what happened to the car, and look at your isp's logs -- then you are screwed
:P
man i hope that i get some type of email soon, i've been itching to put up my site. after dinner i've just been checking my email every 5 minutes jeev: i said i hope it happens, i never said i was a murderer
but if somehow they send me to jail, arpnetworks will be jam pacjked with new clients
with all the publicity
they'll have to give me goodies in prison mick_laptop: heh :) nc__: :( mick_laptop: is nc a bot? jeev: i dunno, it's always unhappy! mick_laptop: a manic depressant bot
it should `/nick economy` jeev: heh
economy is getting better mick_laptop: ya, well i hope that my shop does alright this season jeev: what you do mick_laptop: since cyber monday is around the corner
sell shaving supplies jeev: ah
lol online shop ? mick_laptop: badger brushes etc. jeev: i've never used one mick_laptop: it is really nice (i definitely prefer it)
i want to get away from my current isp (I'm a software engineer and I was an openbsd, debian, solaris admin for years) -- all i want is ssh and i'm good
i really liked the arpnetworks site
plain and simple and straight forward ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer mick_laptop: and i think the irc channel may have been the thing that really sold me :) nc__: :( mick_laptop: def. a bot ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Client Quit) mick_laptop: jeev: is there a "good time" to get in touch w/ the guys in the data center or are there usually people there around the clock? ***: ballen|away is now known as ballen jeev: for arps ?
arpnetworks ? mick_laptop: yup jeev: unsure, you email him... i dont really think he's 24/7 unless if there is a crisis
since there really isn't the need for physical stuff unless if an entire server goes down
it's efficient i guess mick_laptop: ah it is a "him" company :) nc__: :( jeev: nc__, didn't you get your vps ?
mick_laptop, believe me it's better that way
as users, we're so much more happier than other VPS's mick_laptop: i've had such bad experiences so far jeev: where ? mick_laptop: not mentioning because this is logged jeev: i'm confused, you've had bad experiences so far ? mick_laptop: not w/ arpnetworks jeev: ah sroute: Hey
Garry does tend to show up here in the wee hours.
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[FBI] has joined #arpnetworks sroute: ah up_the_irons: as in "/msg [fbi] log #arpnetworks"
ok, food time for real
bbl sroute: got it.
See you later. You can tell me then if FBI is one of your creations... recently I had to write an IRC logger, was kinda fun actually. nc__: i need a project for myself
i was just working on writing up the specifications and designs for a web-based bookmark manager but in doing that i've sort of become unmotivated about it sroute: I have to add a URL shortener to my standard suite of tools I deploy to a site; I don't trust that bit.ly et al will be around as long as I will. nc__: hehe that's my main motivation when working on projects sroute: Although truth be told I am not a fan of such things - it's twitter which compels the use of url shorteners. Funny after years we all hunted for "nice looking urls" now we have foo.ba/sja9aldu
Gold tanking too. An equal opportunity market plunge, I like that. nc__: hah ***: nuke^ has quit IRC (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
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visinin has joined #arpnetworks mick_laptop: up_the_irons: eating again? ;) nc__: ;( mike-burns: Since this came up the other day: lambda calculus to LLVM compiler: http://blog.finiteimprobability.com/2009/11/25/lambda-calculus-compiler-part-ii-wading-in-with-arithmetic/
nc__: At first it was cute, but can you turn your bot off? mick_laptop: it was cute at some point? i missed that somehow mike-burns: Well I like the idea of battling emoticons with more emoticons, but it's ineffectiv so eh.