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| *** | [FBI] starts logging #arpnetworks at Thu Nov 26 00:16:48 2009
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| nc__ | lol | [00:17] |
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| up_the_irons | sroute: man, your blog post musta worked cuz now search results for "freebsd vps" have me at #3. Was previously at #4. w00t
sroute: and your actual blog post is on the 2nd page google indexes fast | [00:41] |
| sroute: oh whoa, your blog is syndicated to planet python? NICE | [00:46] | |
| nc__ | hey
why is it that doing passwd as root doesn't change the root pwd? ah i figured out why heh | [00:49] |
| up_the_irons | nc__: on openbsd, that's just the default | [00:49] |
| nc__ | yeah just typing passwd without passwd root was changing my username's password | [00:50] |
| up_the_irons | sroute: btw, you're spot in your last two paragraphs. For the record, I enjoy managing server and network hardware; my services appeal to command line people; and my target market *is* people who know what they are doing
nc__: yup sroute: s/spot/spot on/ | [00:50] |
| nc__ | ah cool
up_the_irons: for rebooting can i just `reboot` like i would anywhere else? | [00:51] |
| up_the_irons | nc__: yup | [00:53] |
| nc__ | sweet | [00:53] |
| up_the_irons | nc__: if you ever recompile your kernel though (or upgrade), read this: http://scie.nti.st/2009/10/4/running-openbsd-4-5-in-kvm-on-ubuntu-linux-9-04 | [00:53] |
| nc__ | up_the_irons: great, i bookmarked it. thanks :> | [00:54] |
| up_the_irons | np | [00:54] |
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| nc__ | up_the_irons: hey when you're back, could you add a ptr record for my hostname? | [04:44] |
| up_the_irons | nc__: email support@arpnetworks.com with the details | [04:44] |
| nc__ | up_the_irons: what info should i submit? just the hostname? | [04:44] |
| up_the_irons | nc__: hostname and IP
nc__: always including your VM UUID in support tickets, is also useful | [04:45] |
| RonnyBarber | up_the_irons: is my vps running daylight saving time?
i just set the timezone to my region but its 1 hour behind. i'll try gmt+1 instead of cest/amsterdam :-) | [04:46] |
| nc__ | :-( | [04:47] |
| up_the_irons | RonnyBarber: it should see the hardware clock as set to utc | [04:47] |
| nc__ | up_the_irons: thanks, sent | [04:48] |
| up_the_irons | np | [04:48] |
| RonnyBarber | ok | [04:48] |
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| sroute | up_the_irons: you are number one on bing now. Not sure where you were at before. second link on Yahoo | [06:36] |
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| mike-burns | ;2P. | [07:10] |
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| ballen | happy Thanksgiving | [07:17] |
| sroute | Apparently thanksgiving in the 1700s was quite a bit different than it is today.
"Groups of men, crossdressing, who called themselves the Fantastics or Fantasticals, masqueraded on Thanksgiving beginning in the 1780s. . . Subsequently the Fantastics copied these and other elements of English mumming, such as drunkenness and ridiculing authority . . . An editorial in a Pennsylvania newspaper in 1870 defended the Fantastics, on the grounds that "it is better to be merry than sad, and if, as some genial writer asserts, a good hearty laugh takes a nail out of your coffin, a parade of the fantasticals can not fail to lessen the bills of mortality." ' | [07:23] |
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| jeev | thanksgiving is gay[09:29] <vxp> ^
http://pastebin.ca/1688380 there is the 7.2 vs 8.0 benchmark comparison on my own server here | [09:29] |
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| sroute | thanks for the bench results jeev. Seems to be some serious improvement in file performance
did you update an existing 7.2 install (i.e. you cared enough to ru mergemaster)? Any issues? | [09:43] |
| jeev | no
7.2 was better than 8.0 fresh install, soft updates both were fresh installs. | [09:49] |
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| sroute | jeev: egads, I'd better start sleeping soon, read it upside down. | [10:04] |
| jeev | this sucks | [10:05] |
| sroute | I'm not in a hurry to move myself. | [10:08] |
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| jeev | yum ballen, coffee
with really good creamer | [15:38] |
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| up_the_irons | sroute: number #2 on bing? LOL. Not sure those guys are my target audience, but hey, I wasn't in the results *at all* last time I checked (maybe a month ago)
so it's all good | [15:57] |
| jeev | bing is stupid | [16:00] |
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| mick_laptop | if i need to upgrade to another type of account - will it be a PITA - or will it be a fairly sain procedure? | [16:20] |
| jeev | i know raising ram is easy | [16:20] |
| mick_laptop | i'm going to be deploying mod_security and I'd like to see how CPU intensive it really will be on the server | [16:20] |
| jeev | unless if it's already reached it's amount on the server
so you're curious about dual cpu ? if he offers it, it should be a -smp 2 or something. | [16:21] |
| up_the_irons | jeev: this is what I got on fbsd 7.2: http://pastie.org/716654
one of my personal VMs | [16:21] |
| jeev | yea, -smp 1 ?
or -smp 2 | [16:22] |
| up_the_irons | yeah only 1 proc | [16:22] |
| jeev | shit
what proc | [16:22] |
| up_the_irons | mick_laptop: upgrading is easy; only hard part is extending the disk volume, which takes about 10 minutes of downtime | [16:22] |
| mick_laptop | i just want to see that if I need to upgrade from one account that it will not be too much of a deal (I've already ordered so either way I'll see for myself) :) -- depends on the traffic i guess. also if I take up more bandwidth, I hope that I'll just get charged more | [16:23] |
| nc__ | :( | [16:23] |
| up_the_irons | RAM and CPU changes just require a reboot. IP changes require no reboot | [16:23] |
| mick_laptop | instead of some mod_bandwidth middlefinger :) | [16:23] |
| nc__ | :( | [16:23] |
| mick_laptop | up_the_irons: thanks for the info | [16:23] |
| jeev | up_the_irons, can't tel if my 7.2 was -smp 1 or not, the original i had that scored 90, i'll assume so
what processor | [16:24] |
| up_the_irons | mick_laptop: oh yeah, for sure, we don't slowdown or shut off a VPS just cuz it went over (unless this is actually requested). You just get charged overage
jeev: L5430 | [16:24] |
| vxp | qwat about bandwidth overage
out of mere curiousity | [16:25] |
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| nc__ | $2 per megabyte over | [16:26] |
| jeev | that's verizon | [16:26] |
| nc__ | true | [16:26] |
| jeev | i'm gonna do -smp 1 and check now | [16:27] |
| mick_laptop | and i take it that debian installs are just the base system, right?
no xorg etc | [16:32] |
| up_the_irons | yeah, just base
only SSH added | [16:32] |
| mick_laptop | sweet
:) | [16:33] |
| nc__ | :( | [16:33] |
| up_the_irons | i'm very much into minimal installs
man, someone just placed an order for Arch Linux i don't have any Arch templates (b/c no one orders it ;) | [16:36] |
| nc__ | ;( | [16:36] |
| up_the_irons | time to do an Arch install | [16:36] |
| schmir | hehe. that was me | [16:36] |
| up_the_irons | haha
and by that i mean, think about doing the Arch install that i'll have to do later after the family disperses | [16:37] |
| schmir | do you use 32 or 64 bit installs? | [16:39] |
| up_the_irons | 64 bit
i've found it to be more stable at least w/ freebsd vxp: bandwidth overage is generally charged at $0.15 per GB | [16:41] |
| schmir | ok. I stopped using freebsd with 4.11.
do people really order openbsd? or would you need to create an image for that too? :) | [16:45] |
| nc__ | :(
schmir: i just ordered openbsd | [16:47] |
| schmir | guess it's a busy evening for him then :) | [16:52] |
| nc__ | :(
oh i ordered it last night hehe | [16:52] |
| schmir | ok. good night people and happy thanksgiving. | [16:54] |
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| up_the_irons | yeah actually openbsd is popular
oh he left not as popular as freebsd obviously, but i do get consistent orders for openbsd | [16:55] |
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| i leave you guys with: http://twitter.com/bsdvps/status/6098426866
back to eating and drinking | [17:17] | |
| jeev | shit mine sores a 74
E5420, bah maybe you beat me cause you got sexy hard drives, i just have 10k rpm sas what's dm i wonder if i should send this server back to the datacenter or put it here in LA | [17:30] |
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| jeev | ballen
what's up nowadays is coffee good or bad for you it changes daily, need to get a ticker | [17:46] |
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| mhoran | Man, those photos of the LHC are awesome. | [18:17] |
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| mick_laptop | i placed an order this morning and I haven't gotten a confirmation email back, is that normal?
i know that vps accounts are provisioned at night - so I'm hoping that it will be soon, but I want to know if I need to re-place an order or something | [20:13] |
| jeev | hmm | [20:14] |
| mick_laptop | since normally you get some type of an email
[20:14] <jeev> i dont remember if i got a sign up email | [20:14] |
| jeev | maybe you could email support@ just to ask | [20:14] |
| mick_laptop | will do | [20:14] |
| jeev | i'm avoiding guests, i ate these people
hate | [20:14] |
| mick_laptop | i saw that thank you screen
lol | [20:14] |
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| mick_laptop | jeev: that is why you call them family :P
at least you only need to see them 1x a year (maybe 2x) ;) | [20:17] |
| nc__ | ;( | [20:17] |
| jeev | they're extended, family in law.. and i'm serious when i say i hope their car falls off the mountain as they drive home | [20:18] |
| mick_laptop | then when the police check what happened to the car, and look at your isp's logs -- then you are screwed
:P man i hope that i get some type of email soon, i've been itching to put up my site. after dinner i've just been checking my email every 5 minutes | [20:19] |
| jeev | i said i hope it happens, i never said i was a murderer
but if somehow they send me to jail, arpnetworks will be jam pacjked with new clients with all the publicity they'll have to give me goodies in prison | [20:20] |
| mick_laptop | heh :) | [20:20] |
| nc__ | :( | [20:20] |
| mick_laptop | is nc a bot? | [20:21] |
| jeev | i dunno, it's always unhappy! | [20:21] |
| mick_laptop | a manic depressant bot
it should `/nick economy` | [20:21] |
| jeev | heh
economy is getting better | [20:21] |
| mick_laptop | ya, well i hope that my shop does alright this season | [20:22] |
| jeev | what you do | [20:22] |
| mick_laptop | since cyber monday is around the corner
sell shaving supplies | [20:22] |
| jeev | ah
lol online shop ? | [20:23] |
| mick_laptop | badger brushes etc. | [20:23] |
| jeev | i've never used one | [20:23] |
| mick_laptop | it is really nice (i definitely prefer it)
i want to get away from my current isp (I'm a software engineer and I was an openbsd, debian, solaris admin for years) -- all i want is ssh and i'm good i really liked the arpnetworks site plain and simple and straight forward | [20:24] |
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| mick_laptop | and i think the irc channel may have been the thing that really sold me :) | [20:27] |
| nc__ | :( | [20:27] |
| mick_laptop | def. a bot | [20:27] |
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| mick_laptop | jeev: is there a "good time" to get in touch w/ the guys in the data center or are there usually people there around the clock? | [20:56] |
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| jeev | for arps ?
arpnetworks ? | [21:38] |
| mick_laptop | yup | [21:39] |
| jeev | unsure, you email him... i dont really think he's 24/7 unless if there is a crisis
since there really isn't the need for physical stuff unless if an entire server goes down it's efficient i guess | [21:39] |
| mick_laptop | ah it is a "him" company :) | [21:40] |
| nc__ | :( | [21:40] |
| jeev | nc__, didn't you get your vps ?
mick_laptop, believe me it's better that way as users, we're so much more happier than other VPS's | [21:40] |
| mick_laptop | i've had such bad experiences so far | [21:41] |
| jeev | where ? | [21:41] |
| mick_laptop | not mentioning because this is logged | [21:41] |
| jeev | i'm confused, you've had bad experiences so far ? | [21:41] |
| mick_laptop | not w/ arpnetworks | [21:42] |
| jeev | ah | [21:42] |
| sroute | Hey
Garry does tend to show up here in the wee hours. [FBI]: off | [21:53] |
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| [FBI] starts logging #arpnetworks at Thu Nov 26 22:14:11 2009
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| sroute | ah | [22:14] |
| up_the_irons | as in "/msg [fbi] log #arpnetworks"
ok, food time for real bbl | [22:14] |
| sroute | got it.
See you later. You can tell me then if FBI is one of your creations... recently I had to write an IRC logger, was kinda fun actually. | [22:14] |
| nc__ | i need a project for myself
i was just working on writing up the specifications and designs for a web-based bookmark manager but in doing that i've sort of become unmotivated about it | [22:15] |
| sroute | I have to add a URL shortener to my standard suite of tools I deploy to a site; I don't trust that bit.ly et al will be around as long as I will. | [22:22] |
| nc__ | hehe that's my main motivation when working on projects | [22:23] |
| sroute | Although truth be told I am not a fan of such things - it's twitter which compels the use of url shorteners. Funny after years we all hunted for "nice looking urls" now we have foo.ba/sja9aldu
Gold tanking too. An equal opportunity market plunge, I like that. | [22:23] |
| nc__ | hah | [22:25] |
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| mick_laptop | up_the_irons: eating again? ;) | [23:48] |
| nc__ | ;( | [23:48] |
| mike-burns | Since this came up the other day: lambda calculus to LLVM compiler: http://blog.finiteimprobability.com/2009/11/25/lambda-calculus-compiler-part-ii-wading-in-with-arithmetic/
nc__: At first it was cute, but can you turn your bot off? | [23:48] |
| mick_laptop | it was cute at some point? i missed that somehow | [23:49] |
| mike-burns | Well I like the idea of battling emoticons with more emoticons, but it's ineffectiv so eh. | [23:53] |
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