what's shakin' in here
writing music
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hey what do you suggest
if i have a storage server, i want to share the folder to 3 different servers
i dunno about nfs
nfs is easy to setup, a pain to admin over the long term as the client/server count grows
yea i've got nfs running already
but what do you suggest i do
afs is `challenging' to learn/setup, but is painless to scale
yea afs seemed annoying
nfs is already running
my only beef with afs is that it does only do v4 for now, that is in the works to be changed though
i guess nfs it is
only use afs if you want flexible migration of data from various disks and partitions and easy admin on the long term for many clients and redundant servers
since you haven't said anything else ;D
nfs is good for short term shairing one disk with other servers
i guess nfs will be ok i'll just mount it
there's always samba, but thats basicaly nfs with pain in terms of administration
oh crap though ;/ hm
i want to do it on the LAN
but it's xen guests
throw up some firewalls to protect it from the net.. and you're golden heh
well i wanna have nfs go through lan
if you can ping the server you can mount it (firewalls not withstanding)
na, cant pick it
ping
iu can figure this out
i think i got it
got it to work half ass
send but no receive?
well
i can ping out to the nfs server through lan
it responds
but nfs server doesn't get a response when it pings
+ it requires manual bridge removal and addition
now it doesn't work, hrm
ah works hm
either you have ip connectivity or you don't, I wouldn't futz otherwise
well, tcpdump on the host server gets the ping from the storage server
but guest1 doesn't get the ping
something with stupid iptables
ah well there's your problem, get a real firewall *poke*
teehee ;)
i dont like iptables
i'm only using slackware cause i love it
9 756 ACCEPT all -- * * 192.168.50.101 0.0.0.0/0 PHYSDEV match --physdev-in vif18.1
br0 8000.000423b89f87 no eth1
vif18.1
i duno what's wrong ;/
the bridge sees it too
k got it
@toddf r u there?
toddf: Prodigy is probably seeking props on how OpenBSD as a VM is working out for you
;)
hi Gray
Gary
:D
hey Prodigy
yes iam Adit
any idea what toddf run on his server?
still there?
Prodigy: hi Adit.  Not sure what toddf runs, I know it is an IPv6 only host.  He comes around here daily, he must be afk now
i see
seem quite decent network you had there
i 've got nice speed
about the downlink?and uplink?
100/100 full duplex?
i've just ordered
check man
:D
1024 MB RAM, 40 GB Disk, 200 GB Bandwidth ($30)
Prodigy: got it, thanks for your order :)  It'll be provisioned tonight (PST), I do all orders at night during non-peak hours
Stellar: link is 100 mbps
shared?
full duplex (does anyone use half anymore ;)
yeah, shared
can i run torrent flux?
some hosting forbid running torrent
bot
ircd
i don't block any ports, but if you serve anything illegal, I personally have assisted the FBI in search warrants, so be afraid
;)
rfol
:))
i will just nice boy
haha
irc is allowed, yes
you know sharing freeware with my mate
:)
Stellar: you like OpenBSD I take it
what is your suggestion?
i like OpenBSD
i planned to run ircd,glftpd,eathena(ragnarok server)
which one is more stable in VM environment?freebsd or openbsd?
my take is: OpenBSD for highly secure services, Linux when I want features I can't get anywhere else, FreeBSD when I want hard core routing (esp. w/ FreeBSD 8 new arch)
i heard about openbsd dev hate vm so much
:))
a lot of OpenBSD don't like it being virtualized, no secret there.  They are concerned of the security implications
*OpenBSD guys
in my experience, OpenBSD and FreeBSD  have had the exact same reliability
talk of the devil
iam gonna ask about the reliability lol
i need to buy domain also
do you know where i can buy anonymous domain?
GoDaddy and name.com both alow you to use an anonymous whois.
(I'm pretty sure.)
ok thanks man
Garry?you already charged my credit card right?
Prodigy: OpenBSD/amd64 4.6-current (since I'm a developer and like living on the edge, but mainly because arpnetworks has console access *grin*)
s/Prodigy/Stellar/
lol i see
+ your trouble some amd64
hard core routing? openbsd has virtual routing tables and routing domains and pf assisted classifiaction and assigments, what does FreeBSD have on that?
Stellar: not everybody don't like vm's
I like it when it costs so little to have a system I don't have to worry about bandwidth or power or hardware failure on ;-)
well openbsd dev hate it
:D
thats the future of server
i think in the future the vm will run on the chip
I am an openbsd dev keep in mind, not everybody thinks like sheeple
vm does run on the chip via HT and AMD-v
must run, afk for the evening..
hats off,respect to you
you going again?
can i see your uptime mate?
Stellar: I don't charge credit cards until right before provisioning
Stellar: so later tonight (PST), it'll be charged
can you charge now?because i have limited fund on my credit card now,if not enough i need to reload
it's morning here need sleep lol
Stellar: Can't charge at the moment, sorry
ok fine then
i just filled up more extra
toddf: mainly looking at: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3835746/FreeBSD+8+Getting+New+Routing+Architecture.htm
toddf: can OpenBSD take advantage of SMP for faster routing?  Traditionally, even with Linux, because of some hard core cache line stuff that I don't fully understand, routing done on SMP boxes was usually *slower* than single CPU
anyway, when you're back, let me know your thoughts
he is the real openbsd dev o_0?
i must be ashamed
:(
Stellar: i've seen his name on a lot of OpenBSD stuff ;)
ya
quick cyber stalking lol
developer, http://www.openbsd.org, a BSD operating
system focusing on security, utilizes peer review
- coded multi cpu support for top(1)
- maintain various ports
- coordinated compile of X for releases on 5+ platforms
- maintain m4 MAKEDEV and distrib/notes (‘grep
todd /dev/MAKEDEV’)
- some misc coding
http://todd.fries.net/resume.pdf
leet
neat
you must be leet also Garry
:)
Stellar: try this for size..
grep todd /dev/MAKEDEV
Stellar: i'm not leet
anyway
;)
up_the_irons: SMP and routing has to do with whether or not the SMP code can handle interrupts on multiple processors
OpenBSD is MP not SMP for the record
todd my server haven't up yet
toddf: you wrote MAKEDEV?!
and irq's are only handled by one cpu on OpenBSD
I re-wrote MAKEDEV by slicing it up into m4 chunks and generating it
instead of hand-synchronizing things between a growing # of archs
iam noob at *nix world garry
so wrt SMP and routing
damn
unless the os's MP implementation can handle multiple irq's on multiple cpus, handling of network packets will indeed be slower on MP systems vs UP systems
running a UP kernel on MP hardware is possible
toddf: sure, but then a waste; although buying a more inexpensive CPU is a plus ;)
toddf give me advice,iam undergraduate student
how to master c++ on nix
:/
Stellar: dive into kde perhaps??
how did you start?
I don't have mastery of c++
toddf: do you know of any OS MP implementations that can handle multiple irq's on multiple cpus?
I just do what makes sense for me and what relates to what I want to do, the rest follows naturally
Stellar: start writing C++ code; code anything, but just code
Less talk; more rock.
up_the_irons: I don't know if freebsd does or not, I'm rather blinded in that I stare at OpenBSD 100% of the time lately
mike-burns: LOL
toddf: gotcha
mike-burns: hah, thats a variation on the hackathon shirt I have, 'shut up and hack'
in windows i end up wanna buy cry engine 4 lol
in terms of pursuit coding that i like
but i realize that the future is opengl
toddf: i'd be interested to know if benchmarks exist wrt Kpps / Mpps of an OpenBSD router w/ the full internet routing table (300K routes), using OpenBGPD of course
openbgpd will use 32m for a full routing table I've been told
toddf: yeah, that's fine, i guess openbgpd doesn't matter as much as once the RIB is loaded into the FIB, what is the forwarding rate?
the routers I have under my client list that run OpenBGPD are bandwidth limited on the upstream side, so no real concerns about openbsd slowing anything down
gotcha
you'd want to look for presentations under events on the openbsd websites see if you can scare any details outa the routing peoples presentations (claudio, henning, reyk, etc)
toddf: ah, good tip
toddf how to setup my box for domain?
i mean how to setup domain for my box
i've got a domain
do i need to run NS on the box?
stellar: I suspect you want to read through www.openbsd.org/faq/ and pick out topics that relate to domains, namely dns and mail and web
Stellar: find some unix 101 style stuff in howtos and such
i just need pointer in general
I'm outa here for a while, got things planned so will be scarce this weekend, but will read scrollback etc ;-)
ok will post my question here
have fun
Stellar: I did give you pointers in general, take a tip, follow advice, don't act like you need a hand holding session, you'll get further that way
let say my domain pointed into ns1.mydomain.com
do set the ns1.mydomain.com in my dnsd?
the client will automaticly resolve right?
or i just put in my domain config the ns into my box ip?
Services down?
Rada: i haven't received any alerts
Mine doesn't ssh... i'll check the console first
k
wow, can you check the screen?
I've been getting a lot of disk timeouts
ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=125961167
Rada: pm me your VM UUID
sure
Rada: waiting... ;)
I'm looking for it.
A little high here
:P
ok, just referred a new friend here
Rada: awesome, thanks
Rada: the timeouts are strange, the server load is really low
Garry i have dig up on the internet,zero about this basic ns stuff,are you busy?
Rada: iirc, this has happened to you before, no?
No, i've had timeouts being reported by my periodic daily, but i didn't think it was important
You know, i trust freebsd a little too much some times :P
where is ballen
grr
i guess i could just check logs
http://sysadminschronicles.com/
there we go
is that scanty-redis ?
disgus or something eh
Stellar: i'm really busy right now actually, sorry :(
ok i just wait till the box up
need sleep anyway
night all :)
cant wait, call of duty 4 modern warfare 2
isn't cod6 modern warfare 2? too many numbers imo
but hell yes infinity ward > treyarch
whatever, yea
can't wait
i dunno what treyarch is but can't wait
Hey, is there a way to monitor my bandwith? I looked through the control panel to no avail
I'm asking because i might just host a website for a political party
Rada: yes, you can get graphs, just email support your VM UUID and it'll be set up
Nice, thanks :)
it's not set up by default b/c it is somewhat a pain (not automated yet), and only 20% of customers request it
The graphing or the setting it up?
Rada: making a login for the customer for just their graph, adding info to portal, then testing it all
Yeah, sounds bothersome to do for everyone :P
:)
jeev: infinity ward (cod,cod2,cod4,cod6) treyarch (cod3,cod5,cod7) just the dev teams behind
i see
sucks about the server thing
the server situation
9v9 maximum
wow
Besides the lack of server support, there will be no way for players to kick cheaters out of games. Apparently Infinity Ward hopes that hackers and cheaters will somehow not materialize, a very far-fetched idea to anyone who has ever played a popular PC FPS.
wow
omg ..
lol no more dedicated
Infinity Ward's revelation that Modern Warfare 2 for the PC would drop dedicated servers for online multiplayer in favor of the developer's IWNET && Bowling ends it with perhaps the most attractive feature of IWNET, which uses Valve's Anti Cheat.
yea.. now i'm getting depressed
i ont understand who make stupid decisions like that
makes
i enjoy playing 25v25, not it's 9v9 max
looking forward to battlefield 2 bad company now
or bad company 2
it's a server limit.. and that sucks
infinity ward sold out everyone
dedicated servers meant more servers in the open, more money in the economy
i mean not that much but little money is moneyto someone
march 2010, bah
what?
they are doing the WoW approach, where you *have* to use their servers and they take 100% of the $15 / mo or w/e they charge
it's a cash cow
battlefield 2 bad company comes out march 2010
i hope call of duty flops
even though i know a lot of people hwo've preordered
oh well there's a difference..15$/mo = 1 character, not an entire Realm/server
no, that's multiple chars
call of duty wont go monthly
just a stupid ass move on their part
they probably wanna inject ads in the game
that'd be an interesting move (ads in games)
haven't they done this with second life forever...
jeev: just roll a night elf mage with the upcoming exp and stop with fps :P
heh
i have a wow char
my frien got it up to max for me
yeah... im not addicted anymore ...oh wait
i should've ordered the game
and then cancelled
i probably should.
Syntax: !wow [-na|-eu] <realm> or -status.  Searching North American realms by default....how far addiction can go even tcl on eggdrops :P
nasty
i used to have mean tcl's
Good job on taking out all the things that made previous PC versions great, oh and thanks for fucking Australia with IWNet assholes. I can just see MW3, "Oh its a FPS just like previous games, but there is no shooting, you have to talk your differences out, this will provide for a better multiplayer experience as it allows players to connect on an deeper level." Robert Bowling June 2011.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
the 9v9 IWNet servers will be perfect. all 18 people who buy the PC version can play together.
lol
must be time for wine
hmm
i JUST started to consider getting the 'droid' from verizon
hi garry?
http://tinychat.com/26pfg
shit
it's so boring
i'm not even home to play cod4