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coil has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: coil: you never saw [FBI] before ? that bot has been in here since the channel started ;) ***: ersoy has joined #arpnetworks ersoy: hello ***: ballen is now known as ballen|away mhoran: Howdy. ***: nerdd_ has joined #arpnetworks
ballen|away is now known as ballen ersoy: I saw your page in google directory
I want to vps mike-burns: In short, http://arpnetworks.com/vps and you can do everything via the Web. ersoy: i want debian lenny, i do not want the control panel
ok
When the system is activated? mike-burns: ASAP; as soon as up_the_irons does it. ersoy: can i use iptables on vps? mike-burns: That's the Linux competitor for pf right? ballen: yea linux's default firewall mike-burns: If so, yeah go ahead. If you want your system to be monitored you need to allow one IP to ping it. ballen: ersoy: you can do anything you'd be able to do on your own local box mhoran: ersoy: You can basically run anything.
You get root, it's your box, do what you'd like. :) ersoy: sorry i dont know *bsd mike-burns: ersoy: Do anything with your packet filtering, but allow 208.79.89.243 to ping it. ersoy: Some system administrators do not allow iptables on vps
asked for it
thanks
how can i set rdns ?
control panel or named ? ***: nerdd has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) mike-burns: You have to email support@ for rdns, currently.
(Note:I haven't looked at the control panel in months.) mhoran: For a single rDNS entry, mail support@. ersoy: and and finish
do you have ddos protection on your systems mhoran: up_the_irons will allocate rDNS for larger blocks if necessary. mike-burns: I know of no DDoS protection. ballen: ersoy, ddos will likely be a on response support issue.
in general do all you can to avoid such things from happening though ersoy: what is the baklava mean? ballen: isn't baklava a greek dessert ersoy: yes turkish dessert :)
credit card problem is not from turkey? jeev: are you planning on getting any ddos? ***: vtoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.")
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heavysixer_ is now known as heavysixer toddf: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=125729287502801&w=2
for entertainment and also a security warning mike-burns: While I hate his writing style, I can't think of a better way to write it. up_the_irons: toddf: is this related to NULL page mapping, or w/e? toddf: yes up_the_irons: yeah ,that's been going around... toddf: its a short read, I must leave for supper, you probably already are aware, just adding fuel to the fire up_the_irons: i sense some insecurities mhoran: Oh, finally made it to the OpenBSD mailing lists, eh?
Been on FreeBSD for months ... up_the_irons: the post by linus, referenced on the bottom, i had read before (when he first posted it ;)
mhoran: which one?
looks like Theo posted that semi-rant today... mhoran: All the talk about mapping to 0. up_the_irons: ah gotcha mhoran: (Which allowed me to root my T-mobile G1. Hooray!) up_the_irons: hahaha nice jeev: i wish blackberry was more like the iphone mhoran: Bah. There is nothing good about the iPhone. jeev: i bet i could have more fun with an iPhone if i were bored than a blackberry
frankly, other than sending messages, there is nothing fun on a blackberry mhoran: If my phone did my laundry, I'd be happy. jeev: anyone try rebuilding freebsd on their vps ? mhoran: Hm. That isn't so far-fetched. jeev: i wonder how long it takes ***: dbgi has joined #arpnetworks mike-burns: mhoran: If you use your washing machine as your dirty clothes storage and you hooked some sort of computer with Internet to your laundry machine, you'd be halways there. mhoran: Genius! ***: dbgi2IAm has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
ballen|away is now known as ballen jeev: i need to consolidate my servers and retire some
real 111m45.912s
damn, to rebuild 7.2-p4 on 'time make buildworld' but i ran qemu with -smp 2. woops
E5420, 2.5ghz x 4
that's a long ass time. up_the_irons: that seems quite slow jeev: maybe cause i didn't -j2 ?
or -j4 or whatever
CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.11.50 (2500.08-MHz K8-class CPU)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
hmm ***: ballen has quit IRC ()
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or evening depending ***: vtoms has joined #arpnetworks Ta|isman: I have been speaking with OBsidieth, and he speaks highly of you
I wasn't quite understanding how he was explaining the thing though
so I figured I would come speak with you up_the_irons: ok Ta|isman: so I sign up on the site in the topic?
no paypal?
these are real dedicated resources, or user shasred? up_the_irons: no paypal
arpnetworks.com/vps for more info
find something you like, click "Order"
RAM is dedicated, disk is dedicated
disk space, that is
CPU is shared vxp: lorf
sup Ta|isman ***: vtoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.") Ta|isman: k
sup vx
how you doin bra
"HB"
ok up
Imma git wun ***: dbgi2 has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen ballen: http://status.slicehost.com/2009/11/3/dfw-interruption-2 hah
hmm since when did I become a channel op? I feel special now ***: nerdd has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) vxp: mentally challenged ballen: nah not special ed ***: nerdd has joined #arpnetworks
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ballen|away is now known as ballen up_the_irons: ballen: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2009-11-01,Sun&sel=26#l22 ballen: mmk up_the_irons: ballen: we had a trolling problem ballen: k
will de-troll the channel if needed up_the_irons: i probably shouldn't auto-op (freenode suggestion), but instead allow one to op themselves if needed
de-troll! ballen: whichever ***: ballen sets mode: -o ballen ballen: can I not op myself currently? up_the_irons: ballen: yes, you can, but in case you didn't want to be op'd unless needed, you'd have to de-op yourself every time you joined ballen: whats the command to op myself? visinin: /msg chanserv op #arpnetworks ballen
i think up_the_irons: "Rackspace has experienced a service interruption during tonight’s scheduled maintenance on UPS Cluster G." ***: ChanServ sets mode: +o ballen up_the_irons: ballen: /mode #arpnetworks +o ballen
ballen: oh i guess the chanserv one worked too ;) ballen: ah forgot to add the channel up_the_irons: so if rackspace had a power outage, god help us... ballen: yea rackspace has been having some issues up_the_irons: i always find this a constant though: "The PDUs were down for a total of about 5 minutes"
makes me wanna install some local APC UPS's in my cabs ballen: yea damn things as somewhat expensive though up_the_irons: right
and I'm paying a lot for UPS power already
N+1 redundant and all that stuff ballen: so I got an epic downtime notice today at work up_the_irons: but still ballen: warning me of a downtime of 50 milliseconds up_the_irons: things fail, no matter how hard you try
so you gotta be prepared, and a UPS would carry one through a 5 minute disruption
ballen: 50 ms, really? ballen: yea true up_the_irons: UPS = local rack UPS ballen: yea, enterprise wide
telco and all up_the_irons: wow
but still... 50 ms ballen: yea not worried about it
at all up_the_irons: haha ballen: thats less time then typical round trip
of a single packet up_the_irons: yeah ballen: thought it was funny though up_the_irons: LOL: "Service to Cloud sites has been restored and we are continuing to work with Cloud sites customers to bring them online"
wait, but if you're on the "Cloud"
it is never supposed to go down, it is THE CLOUD ballen: yep
silly
the cloud needs a good catchy term for when it crashes
whats the antithesis of "THE CLOUD" visinin: cloudburst
bahahaha ballen: hmm up_the_irons: ballen: what makes clouds go away? visinin: i find that a lot funnier than i think it actually is up_the_irons: dryness? ballen: high pressure up_the_irons: DROUGHT ***: nuke has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.) up_the_irons: HIGH PRESSURE ballen: drought is more antithesis of water/rain up_the_irons: HIGH PRESSURE COLLISION ***: nuke^ has joined #arpnetworks ballen: not catchy enough up_the_irons: ballen: right, but if it is dry, there's little moisture in the air, so clouds don't form, no? ballen: true, thinking common mass media mindset here
something that would really stick up_the_irons: "Yeah all these constant issues with the Cloud Site is a very big concern for my company and I. We have spend a lot of time migrating over to Cloud Site and we have discovered that it is not as reliable as the 99.9% uptime Rackspace had promised" <-- this is somewhat typical, it is a "new" platform, it's gonna have kinks ballen: heh up_the_irons: actually, 99.9% uptime still leaves room for like an hour a month, doesn't it? -: up_the_irons breaks out bc ballen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability
8.76 hours
a year
which I think they're still under up_the_irons: 43.2 minutes a month, by my calculation ballen: yep
for 30 day months up_the_irons: i can see why google does away with centralized UPSs, and just battery backs the individual server
right, 30 days ballen: yea I absolutely love that model
wish someone would offer in server battery commercially
offers a number of benefits
so does Arp Networks offer six nines availability? jeev: i've gotta find out why it's taking 27 minutes for me to build kernel on my kvm box vs 19 on arp ballen: because the ARP box is faster? up_the_irons: jeev: what command exactly you using to build your kernel? jeev: time make buildkernel KERNCONF=BOX
for example.
let me try running without -smp 2
our cpu differences are what, 166 mhz
maybe cause i'm using a .qcow2.. i mean i dunno ***: dbgi2 has quit IRC ("Leaving") up_the_irons: ballen: never calculated exactly. I definitely don't want 45 minutes downtime per month. I'd say, realistically, we're looking at more like 5 - 10, and always off-peak and planned. Most outages are just for kernel security patches -: up_the_irons raises fits at Linux ballen: up_the_irons, was kidding six nines of downtime is a crazy goal
like 32 seconds in a year up_the_irons: jeev: i'm trying that on my new box, let's see
LOL ballen: 99.9999%
a common "idea" around the dot com bust up_the_irons: haha
i've never understood this: http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SUA3000RM2U&total_watts=50
WHY, APC, WHY can't you give me a UPS with twist-lock OUTPUTS
that's a deal breaker ballen: hmm
can you do 208v? jeev: what you running on the new box
ubunti? ballen: http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SUA3000RMT2U&total_watts=50
I have that in my rack at the moment
although I can't remember if they are twist lock
hmmm thinking
thinking
yes they are
because my PDU for the rack used to be plugged into the wall which is twist lock up_the_irons: ballen: I don't have 208V. See, that one you have, is perfect, I just need the 120V version
which I don't know if it exists ballen: hmm lame up_the_irons: L5-20R or L5-30R outputs would do fine
WHOA
http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SUA3000R3XLNETPKG&total_watts=1800
there
it has one
man, pricey jeev: i'm so annoyed ballen: yea networked
bumps the price jeev: just get the old school AP9616's
hahah
or whatever they were
that what i use and will always use ballen: yea 120v is lame ***: visinin has quit IRC ("sleep") up_the_irons: this would work:
http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtSeriesID=659&EID=13790&txtModelID=3023
but tripplite just doesn't look as nice
and doesn't have the reputation of APC
i'm a fan of APC products, been very reliable for me ballen: hmm Tripplite
yea I'd stick with APC up_the_irons: yeah, look, the one i was looking at that has the right output: http://www.provantage.com/apc-sua3000r3xlnetpkg~4AMP91R1.htm
$1402.61 on Provantage
which isn't *too* bad
the tripplite is about $1000 on Provantage
so the savings would be $400, not too much if there were *any* problems with the tripplite ballen: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534049-REG/APC_SUA3000RMXL3U_Smart_UPS_XL_3000VA_RM.html
bought my Nikon D300 from B&H
why not a UPS up_the_irons: iiinteresting
ouchie, $220 to ship
it *is* heavy
Provantage wants $188 to ship ballen: yea up_the_irons: Provantage doesn't charge tax, which is nice ballen: I'd go with the white glove in home action up_the_irons: LOL
i've had customers ship me stuff with FedEx White Glove
trucks
entire cabs
it was awesome, they do *everything* ballen: "everything"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101177 up_the_irons: no twist lock outputs ballen: http://www.lacc.com/product.asp?pf_id=SUA3000RMXL3U-R&gkw=SUA3000RMXL3U-R&gad=CMmoy6ADEgjAzwOV645uHRiX_r3-AyDRkIA6
ah I change models ? up_the_irons: yeah
SUA3000R3XLNETPKG
http://www.lacc.com/product.asp?pf_id=SUA3000R3XLNETPKG%2DR
no pick
but referb is sure cheaper
*refurb ballen: seems like this is not an area to go with refurb up_the_irons: srsly jeev: up_the_irons, let me know how fast yours goes
mine is still in the 30's
upper 20's, low 30's, to build
but im doing a slightly lesser kernel, no wifi and shit up_the_irons: oh yeah jeev: maybe it's just my kernel or qemu-kvm and stuff
im running git version up_the_irons: 1088.33 real 890.37 user 132.80 sys
what units are those
fuck
seconds...? jeev: 18 min
same thing
yea up_the_irons: k jeev: what cpu up_the_irons: 18.133 mins
E5430
i mean
L5430
2.66 GHz jeev: mine is an E5420
2.5ghz up_the_irons: slightly slower jeev: CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.11.50 (2500.08-MHz K8-class CPU)
what qemu are you running up_the_irons: but i bet i have a lot more VMs running ;) jeev: thought it was a new box
i'
i'm only runing one
are you running it with qcow up_the_irons: $ dmesg | grep CPU
CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 (2666.81-MHz K8-class CPU)
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
no, LVM jeev: root 18792 41.8 12.9 1190688 1061084 pts/1 Sl+ 23:17 17:09 qemu-system-x86_64 disk0.qcow2 -vga std -net nic,model=e1000,macaddr=00:11:22:33:44:55 -net tap -monitor stdio -vnc 127.0.0.1:2 -m 1024
shit
42$
42%
wasn't like that before.
you think lvm/qcow would have that big of a difference