[01:34] *** sroute has joined #arpnetworks [01:59] cool, s/ip. pubkey sent... [02:00] * sroute is wondering if Canadian back bacon doughnuts will every be available here... [02:39] *** Rada has joined #arpnetworks [02:55] *** nuke has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.) [02:56] *** nuke^ has joined #arpnetworks [03:10] *** mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks [05:54] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [06:04] *** vtoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [06:08] Guess that key wasn't in there. :) [06:46] up_the_irons: Ever work with any Juniper equipment? [06:47] Also, what are you using to route IPv4? [06:51] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [07:30] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [08:04] *** vtoms has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [09:00] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [09:19] *** heavysixer has quit IRC () [09:55] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [10:46] i think ihad swine flu [10:46] and now it's gone [10:47] well i had something [10:50] That's exciting. [10:50] very [11:47] * sroute is still recovering from H1N1 [11:47] eldest son also got it, he's more or less well now. Four days off school. [12:07] what were your symptoms [12:29] sore throught, headache, aches, congestion in upper chest / a little gurgling inside / fever for him, not for me, some cough. Comes on fast. [12:29] i wish i could get rid of sore throats instantly [12:29] s/throught/throat/ [12:30] Feelin' tired; barely got any work done all week... and on that note I'm going to go make some tea [12:54] dongs [13:05] mhoran: have not worked with Juniper, except drool over them. IPv4 is routed by a Cisco 4500 w/ SUPIV [13:05] up_the_irons: Ah, nifty. [13:06] Yeah, I'd like to work with a Juniper sometime. [13:06] We had one in the lab at Cisco but nobody knew how to use it and it wasn't hooked up. [13:06] haha, Cisco had some Juniper gear in a closet, nice [13:08] Heh. Yup. [13:08] Fuckign monit. What a shitty piece of software. [13:08] oh certainly, monit is garbage [13:08] runit is the way to go [13:09] *** cablehead has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [13:09] Interesting. [13:09] runit has one job -- to keep a process running [13:09] Heh. [13:09] you can trust it to do that [13:09] *** cablehead has joined #arpnetworks [13:09] Does it just do pid checks or can it do more advanced things like HTTP? [13:09] Our AOLservers like to die. [13:12] mhoran: no, pid check is the way *not* to manage a process, because that's akin to "ps auxw | grep ", subject to race conditions, etc... It manages a process because it is the parent of that process. Only in that way can you fully control a process [13:12] Nifty. [13:12] then controlling the process is easy, like: [13:12] "sv stop my-proggy" [13:12] sv start [13:12] sv status [13:13] etc ... [13:13] Ah, right. [13:14] If I dump monit, I still need a way to be alerted of service restarts, and to do those HTTP checks and reboots. [13:14] and you can set groups that have access to individual supervisors, so there can be a group "web-admins" that can control *this* and "dns-admins" that can control *that* [13:14] That's nice. [13:14] mhoran: yeah, runit won't focus on those as much [13:15] Still, looks pretty solid. [13:15] i run it (pun!!) on a lot of boxes, never was disappointed [13:15] Of course, if runit dies, you're fucked. [13:15] :( [13:15] (I guess if init dies, I'm screwed too.) [13:15] cronjob a check to confirm runit is running [13:16] Yep. [13:16] monit could easily be replaced with some cronjobs and runit. [13:17] I like it! [13:17] mhoran: you set runit to start in /etc/inittab (old way) or /etc/event.d (newer Debian / Ubuntu) [13:17] mhoran: so it always stays running [13:17] Right. [13:17] even if you kill it, it'll restart [13:17] Yeah. [13:18] it's very "unixy", look at the cool stuff I can do: [13:18] $ for i in host1 host2 host3; do ssh $i sv status vm-management; done [13:18] run: vm-management: (pid 11031) 133590s; run: log: (pid 12944) 1926719s [13:18] run: vm-management: (pid 10962) 133570s; run: log: (pid 21526) 205819s [13:18] run: vm-management: (pid 4438) 124502s; run: log: (pid 4437) 124502s [13:18] $ [13:19] (host names changed to protect the innocent ;) [13:19] That's nice. [13:20] cd $office [13:22] no wonder my vm came up quickly when you killed it the other month (at my request of course) [14:13] toddf: did you try the new console? you can now kill and start your VM yourself ;) Not that I expect you to jump at that option... [14:19] I will, but not yet, dealing with a cap growth issue at my parents house in their economy puters [14:23] roger [14:31] http://cgi.ebay.com/1U-Super-Server-X8STi-F-Core-i7-920-DDR3-1333-8GB-RAM_W0QQitemZ120407077979QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c08d2345b [14:31] what a trick [14:31] that's just EVIL [15:07] what trick? [15:12] *** cablehead has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [15:12] *** cablehead has joined #arpnetworks [15:12] *** cablehead has quit IRC (Client Quit) [15:12] showing all that but only selling the barebone [15:13] *** cablehead has joined #arpnetworks [15:13] jeev: hah, yeah [15:15] it's mobo and case i guess [15:16] yeah [15:17] jeev: thing is, i don't see all too much the value add for screwing in the MB ;) you can buy the case and MB separate, and save money [15:17] *** vtoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [15:26] yea [15:59] eww [15:59] my kvm box oopsed on me! [16:19] general protection fault: 0000 [#2] SMP [16:19] gizay [16:19] it was working with 2.6.32-rc3 [16:56] up_the_irons, you know what KSM is [17:27] jeev: nope [17:28] apparently it makes it possible for you to be able to run more guests than before [17:29] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KSM [17:29] jeev: i imagine that would be an overall goal anyway [17:30] how many do you think i could stuff on a E5420 with 8 gigs of ram [17:30] just curious, probably gonna use it to set up a mail server for something unrelated to my shit [17:30] CoW memory across VMs, yeah this concept has been done before [17:31] jeev: obviously, that depends on how much RAM you give to each VM [17:31] yea i know but CPU wise [17:33] depends how much load you put on each VM [17:33] :> [17:33] there is no general answer [18:28] *** nuke^ is now known as nuke [18:45] * sroute runs for the bomb shelter [23:18] *** dbgi has quit IRC ()