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| sroute | cool, s/ip. pubkey sent...
sroute is wondering if Canadian back bacon doughnuts will every be available here... | [01:59] | |
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| mhoran | Guess that key wasn't in there. :) | [06:08] | |
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| up_the_irons: Ever work with any Juniper equipment?
Also, what are you using to route IPv4? | [06:46] | ||
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| jeev | i think ihad swine flu
and now it's gone well i had something | [10:46] | |
| mhoran | That's exciting. | [10:50] | |
| jeev | very | [10:50] | |
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| sroute | sroute is still recovering from H1N1
eldest son also got it, he's more or less well now. Four days off school. | [11:47] | |
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| jeev | what were your symptoms | [12:07] | |
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| sroute | sore throught, headache, aches, congestion in upper chest / a little gurgling inside / fever for him, not for me, some cough. Comes on fast. | [12:29] | |
| jeev | i wish i could get rid of sore throats instantly | [12:29] | |
| sroute | s/throught/throat/
Feelin' tired; barely got any work done all week... and on that note I'm going to go make some tea | [12:29] | |
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| vxp | dongs | [12:54] | |
| up_the_irons | mhoran: have not worked with Juniper, except drool over them. IPv4 is routed by a Cisco 4500 w/ SUPIV | [13:05] | |
| mhoran | up_the_irons: Ah, nifty.
Yeah, I'd like to work with a Juniper sometime. We had one in the lab at Cisco but nobody knew how to use it and it wasn't hooked up. | [13:05] | |
| up_the_irons | haha, Cisco had some Juniper gear in a closet, nice | [13:06] | |
| mhoran | Heh. Yup.
Fuckign monit. What a shitty piece of software. | [13:08] | |
| up_the_irons | oh certainly, monit is garbage
runit is the way to go | [13:08] | |
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| mhoran | Interesting. | [13:09] | |
| up_the_irons | runit has one job -- to keep a process running | [13:09] | |
| mhoran | Heh. | [13:09] | |
| up_the_irons | you can trust it to do that | [13:09] | |
| *** | cablehead has joined #arpnetworks | [13:09] | |
| mhoran | Does it just do pid checks or can it do more advanced things like HTTP?
Our AOLservers like to die. | [13:09] | |
| up_the_irons | mhoran: no, pid check is the way *not* to manage a process, because that's akin to "ps auxw | grep <PID>", subject to race conditions, etc... It manages a process because it is the parent of that process. Only in that way can you fully control a process | [13:12] | |
| mhoran | Nifty. | [13:12] | |
| up_the_irons | then controlling the process is easy, like:
"sv stop my-proggy" sv start sv status etc ... | [13:12] | |
| mhoran | Ah, right.
If I dump monit, I still need a way to be alerted of service restarts, and to do those HTTP checks and reboots. | [13:13] | |
| up_the_irons | and you can set groups that have access to individual supervisors, so there can be a group "web-admins" that can control *this* and "dns-admins" that can control *that* | [13:14] | |
| mhoran | That's nice. | [13:14] | |
| up_the_irons | mhoran: yeah, runit won't focus on those as much | [13:14] | |
| mhoran | Still, looks pretty solid. | [13:15] | |
| up_the_irons | i run it (pun!!) on a lot of boxes, never was disappointed | [13:15] | |
| mhoran | Of course, if runit dies, you're fucked.
:( (I guess if init dies, I'm screwed too.) | [13:15] | |
| toddf | cronjob a check to confirm runit is running | [13:15] | |
| mhoran | Yep.
monit could easily be replaced with some cronjobs and runit. I like it! | [13:16] | |
| up_the_irons | mhoran: you set runit to start in /etc/inittab (old way) or /etc/event.d (newer Debian / Ubuntu)
mhoran: so it always stays running | [13:17] | |
| mhoran | Right. | [13:17] | |
| up_the_irons | even if you kill it, it'll restart | [13:17] | |
| mhoran | Yeah. | [13:17] | |
| up_the_irons | it's very "unixy", look at the cool stuff I can do:
$ for i in host1 host2 host3; do ssh $i sv status vm-management; done run: vm-management: (pid 11031) 133590s; run: log: (pid 12944) 1926719s run: vm-management: (pid 10962) 133570s; run: log: (pid 21526) 205819s run: vm-management: (pid 4438) 124502s; run: log: (pid 4437) 124502s $ (host names changed to protect the innocent ;) | [13:18] | |
| mhoran | That's nice. | [13:19] | |
| up_the_irons | cd $office | [13:20] | |
| toddf | no wonder my vm came up quickly when you killed it the other month (at my request of course) | [13:22] | |
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| up_the_irons | toddf: did you try the new console? you can now kill and start your VM yourself ;) Not that I expect you to jump at that option... | [14:13] | |
| toddf | I will, but not yet, dealing with a cap growth issue at my parents house in their economy puters | [14:19] | |
| up_the_irons | roger | [14:23] | |
| jeev | http://cgi.ebay.com/1U-Super-Server-X8STi-F-Core-i7-920-DDR3-1333-8GB-RAM_W0QQitemZ120407077979QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c08d2345b
what a trick that's just EVIL | [14:31] | |
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| up_the_irons | what trick? | [15:07] | |
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| jeev | showing all that but only selling the barebone | [15:12] | |
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| up_the_irons | jeev: hah, yeah | [15:13] | |
| jeev | it's mobo and case i guess | [15:15] | |
| up_the_irons | yeah
jeev: thing is, i don't see all too much the value add for screwing in the MB ;) you can buy the case and MB separate, and save money | [15:16] | |
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| jeev | yea | [15:26] | |
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| eww
my kvm box oopsed on me! | [15:59] | ||
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| general protection fault: 0000 [#2] SMP
gizay it was working with 2.6.32-rc3 | [16:19] | ||
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| up_the_irons, you know what KSM is | [16:56] | ||
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| up_the_irons | jeev: nope | [17:27] | |
| jeev | apparently it makes it possible for you to be able to run more guests than before
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| up_the_irons | jeev: i imagine that would be an overall goal anyway | [17:29] | |
| jeev | how many do you think i could stuff on a E5420 with 8 gigs of ram
just curious, probably gonna use it to set up a mail server for something unrelated to my shit | [17:30] | |
| up_the_irons | CoW memory across VMs, yeah this concept has been done before
jeev: obviously, that depends on how much RAM you give to each VM | [17:30] | |
| jeev | yea i know but CPU wise | [17:31] | |
| up_the_irons | depends how much load you put on each VM | [17:33] | |
| jeev | :> | [17:33] | |
| up_the_irons | there is no general answer | [17:33] | |
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| sroute | sroute runs for the bomb shelter | [18:45] | |
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