#arpnetworks 2009-10-26,Mon

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up_the_ironsYour VMs' home: http://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/4045337327/in/photostream/
at least the KVM/QEMU ones
(old Xen boxes not shown)
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jeevheh
they look like old servers lol
are those ibm's
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visininup_the_irons: which datacenter are those in? [01:05]
up_the_ironsvisinin: Wilshire Annex (Los Angeles) [01:06]
jeevguessing somewhere in los angeles
;)
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up_the_ironsjeev: do those really look like IBMs to you? ;) [01:06]
jeevi dunno [01:06]
up_the_ironsguess you've never seen IBMs :) [01:06]
jeevyea, the old school ones
maybe these are supermicor's
i duno
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visininah, cool :)
so hey
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jeevahh
i mixed up the blue and red
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up_the_ironsjeev: they are supermicro's [01:07]
jeevcool [01:07]
visininhave you ever stopped by the nickel diner downtown? [01:07]
jeevi had the best luck with those
ever stopped at chu's kitchen?
i used to love the place
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up_the_ironsvisinin: no, i haven't [01:07]
jeevchu's is on 9th [01:08]
visininup_the_irons: it's at 5th and main, just a little north of that intersection [01:08]
jeevacross new moon [01:08]
visininthey have amazing food and pastries [01:08]
up_the_ironsi have or have managed several tons of supermicro's. they have been very reliable :)
visinin: ah cool
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jeevi've spent the entire day trying to figure out how to build a xen kernel that's not 2.6.18
i think i finally got it
i'm gonna use xen on these wasting old boxes at the datacenters.. no virtualization ;/
benchmark score.. FINAL SCORE 47.4
lol
nasty but it's better than virtualbox's 10
qemu's 9
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visininup_the_irons: be sure to grab a maple bacon donut from there sometime
i miss the nickel diner so much, goddamn
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up_the_ironsvisinin: maple bacon? sounds... interesting
jeev: Xen is good use for old boxes
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visininit sounds a bit weird at first but oh man is it ever good [01:14]
up_the_ironshaha [01:14]
visinini'm going to come back to LA just for the nickel diner, i swear [01:15]
up_the_ironshaha [01:16]
nerddHoly mother.. Never heard of maple bacon before, yet I've just gotten the cravings for it.. Thank you visinin [01:17]
visininnot a problem!
haha
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jeevbacon has too much fat, it's like eating a booger .. and i dont like doing those voluntarily [01:18]
visininperhaps you just like bacon a bit crispier [01:19]
jeevi like legitimate meat
not fat, i can't stand looking or touching.. feeling it
nasty
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nerddMmm.. Bacon.. [01:20]
up_the_ironsi hate fat as well; but lean bacon cooked right can be quite good [01:22]
nerddTraditional danish dish (yes, it's bacon - not smoked though): http://www.23hq.com/oschlag/photo/3195583/large [01:23]
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jeevhttp://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/articles/blog/1790000379/20080607/bacon-2.JPG
http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/articles/blog/1790000379/20080607/bacon-2.JPG
too fatty
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nerddNah, just fry it till it's crisp and put it on a paper towel to drain off excess fat :) [01:29]
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_mxb_re
any ppl from support side?
up_the_irons
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toddfif you need support email support@ especially since nobody has responded yet ;-) [11:33]
_mxb_done it already :) [11:34]
toddfoh heh [11:34]
_mxb_thx anyway
actually posted on forum they have
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toddfposting on forum != sending email [11:35]
_mxb_toddf how does it comes you hang around here?
toddf work for arpnet?
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mike-burnsEveryone except up_the_irons is a customer in here.
If you have more general questions feel free to ask them and we can make up pretty accurate answers. For immediate and 100% correct answers: if up_the_irons is actively talking in here, ask here; otherwise, email support@.
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_mxb_k [11:38]
toddfwhat he said ;-)
<-- customer
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_mxb_well, he done it for you ;) [11:45]
sroutesroute misssed the bacon doughnuts while they were being passed around [11:47]
visininsomebody got them? D: [11:47]
jeevjeev went to nickel diner today [11:50]
up_the_irons_mxb_: yo [11:52]
visininnice, jeev :D [11:58]
up_the_irons[11:32:36] _mxb_ | toddf how does it comes you hang around here?
apparently toddf is famous
:)
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_mxb_lists@obsd :) [12:02]
up_the_ironshaha
up_the_irons has a subscription to misc@
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_mxb_toddf been in sweden last time with the rest of openbsd.org? [12:08]
toddfmbx: I came to arpnetworks cuz they're the only place with the low cost vm solutions I've found to date that even remotely makes sense for me; the runner up was a vmware host with no console access and nat'ed dedicated ip for me to my vm session
yes, I was at n2k9
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_mxb_k
enjoyed?
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toddfI think my wife enjoyed it more, I was tired tramping all over instead of riding in a car like I'm used to; I kept insisting it was the heavy backpack I had on with our waters and snacks and layers of clothes incase it got cold etc .. plus my laptop of course .. but she liked to poke fun anyway [12:14]
_mxb_=)
well, this is the job we have to take sometimes :)
arn't we :)
been in sweden before?
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jeevvisinin: i'm just kidding, wanted to make you jealous
:)
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visinin:( :( :( :( :(
i do not like you very much
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jeevhahah
i want to go to downtown though
yang chow and chu's kitchen
shekarchi restaurant is good too
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toddfmxb: that was both of our first trip to europe [13:50]
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up_the_ironstoddf: someone in ipv6-ops had suggested that the router side of a link local address could be set simply to fe80::1/64, on a customer VLAN. It simplifies the config a bit, and also makes the IP not change if the NIC MAC changes. What do you think about this? [17:53]
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jeevanyone ever insurance claim through fedex? [19:47]
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toddfup_the_irons: I do this myself, actually .. so I like the idea
one thing to note since you're considering this and I happen to know you're using OpenBSD for IPv6 routing
put this for the first line in whatever hostname.* file for the IPv6 router:
inet6 fe80::1
any other 'inet6' should be 'inet6 alias address' but if the first line in the conf file is that and it is a link local address you can skip the 'alias' bit
corrilary is that this becomes difficult with vlan interfaces, it manages to assign the eui-64 link local prior to the 1st line being parsed somehow
it is indicative of the fact that I (or someone) needs to figure out how to fix this that I have this in a host's hostname.if file:
down vlandev gem0
inet6 fe80::6a
!ifconfig $if inet6 delete fe80::230:65ff:fe75:24d4
up
rtsol
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