[00:00] PAE isn't well tested on FreeBSD? [00:00] jeev: your box does 230 megs? very nice [00:00] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html [00:00] Note: The PAE support in FreeBSD is only available for Intel IA-32 processors. It should also be noted, that the PAE support in FreeBSD has not received wide testing, and should be considered beta quality compared to other stable features of FreeBSD. [00:04] well, that settles that [00:04] up_the_irons, it's just html and images [00:04] single cpu E5420 (quad 2.5) [00:04] xeon [00:05] jeev: i'm familiar with that proc, I use the E5430 and L5430's [00:05] jeev serving it up with something like nginx or varnish? [00:14] *** ballen is now known as ballen|away [00:30] * sroute agrees with ballen about facebook [00:31] * sroute has no facebook account and never will. too many distractions already anyway. [00:35] godamn GNU parted is bullshit [00:37] apache [00:37] facebook and all that shit is just indexin [00:37] you're giving away your life when yousign up for that stuff [00:37] up_the_irons, it's decent i guess [00:57] jeev: Through school people always told me to get a life. Now that I'm on facebook, do I have minus one life? [01:02] who knows [01:02] but i guarantee you one thing, your messages are being read. [01:18] Rada: Well, I'd bet my right arm that the same people now think that you don't have any life if you don't have a facebook account. Pretty ironic isn't it? [01:27] No actually a lot of them grew up to be mature people and are now in their twenties. Some of them probably got an education, others are servicing gas stations, but ... [01:29] But they still think that facebook acct. == life - and back then they thought (being online != life) [01:30] I believe we're heading for a day where being online is an unnoticable part of our everyday lives. [01:30] So yeah you're right [01:30] Anybody not connected to the net will cease social existance. [01:35] i dont believe that [01:35] good night [01:38] Then we have succeeded in forcing our geek way of life upon the world, and we can rightfully claim ourselves conquerors of human kind. [01:44] I dont know man. Civilisation without technology at least as complex as now sounds kinda lame [01:44] How did people have lives back then? [01:46] They walked outside :| [01:56] I can barely imagine how painstaking all that walking would be for peoples feet [01:56] For christs sakes, it's like _all_ of your body weight focused on TWO stumps of meat [03:23] *** amazing has joined #arpnetworks [03:34] *** amazing has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [04:08] *** hycer has quit IRC ("Lost terminal") [06:20] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [06:36] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [07:21] *** hycer has joined #arpnetworks [07:31] *** sentabi has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [07:46] *** ballen|away is now known as ballen [08:46] *** ballen is now known as ballen|away [09:18] *** samsam has joined #arpnetworks [10:01] *** cablehead has joined #arpnetworks [10:11] i like my stumps of meat [10:11] ... guess I won't fit into the future very well. [10:12] as computers get smaller and more portable and more powerful, more people will find them convenient [10:12] mobile phones have introduced the mobile communications concept [10:13] making data capable mobile phones and more powerful mobile phones .. will end up in a reality where everybody just uses mobile communications whether chat or voice or video .. and with HMD's coming down in price (supposedly a french company will make them for less than $200 in 2010) [10:14] we can expect mobile devices to interface with mobile video display units and we head towards Accelarando style tech easily [10:14] not sure I'd ever be dumbfounded and inept w/out such enhancements like my head mounted virtual display superimposing on my realities, but there sure are a lot of times when I could use such [10:15] I really don't see HUDs appearing on humans any time in the next 500 years. [10:16] look up optinvent and their product Clear Vu a clear HMD less than $200 early 2010 [10:17] *** ballen|away is now known as ballen [10:17] Price isn't the limiting factor. [10:17] if the geeks have them first, the marketroids will find ways to make geek stuff stylish [10:17] * sroute throws SkyNet switch on; SkyNet to become self-aware in 7 seconds. [10:18] tell me 20 years ago you'd expect to see wireless earphones in people talking via mobile phones today? [10:18] Perhaps more pressing concerns than being stylish will become, well, stylish in the not distant future. [10:18] Nah, hands-free phones existed then. [10:18] Stylishness is never leaving. [10:18] hands free but not wire free [10:19] aka bluetooth was but a scifi concept back then [10:19] I'm not sure that I'd have doubted Bluetooth, but I do doubt that people will want HUDs. [10:19] now there's usb3 .. [10:19] usl is a usb display chipset [10:20] VOX is pretty old tech; I had a luggable cell phone that had vox some time ago. Not the same as an ear bud phone. Did we expect that back then? I'm pretty sure most techies expected a certain amount of miniaturization [10:20] so someone puts usb3 wireless into a phone and usb3 receiver in a HUD and suddenly you have a stylish pair of headsets that goes with your phone with earphones and a video conf call in the future [10:20] I suspect that anyone who would want a HUD already works with/has a product from Steve Mann. [10:21] I have spent hours looking at his site, but I have no clue how to get a transparent HUD out of it [10:21] if I missed something feel free to show me where [10:22] So we need the technology to be cheap enough to go into common, in-style glasses? [10:22] and I also note most of his details stop at 2001 [10:22] for mass market sub $200/pair is a huge leap forward IMHO [10:22] I just don't see a market for this. [10:22] once the initial geeks eat that up they should have enough funding to further refine the product [10:23] airlines could give out glasses and you could watch the video in hidef widescreen [10:24] I dunno. I'm cynical, but I also don't know if a HUD can provide something that people are actually willing to spend money on. [10:25] there are lesser quality things for portable dvd players or whatever on amazon [10:25] I just don't like them because they're 320x200 mostly [10:28] toddf: just one more thing to stock, track, clean. Unless they can sell them for $10 I doubt you'll see airlines do it. [10:28] they don't even like doing dishes these days [10:31] personally I am not keen to wear glasses someone else has had perched on their shnoz, or use earphones either. I bring my own or don't bother. [10:32] Yeah same here. [10:32] I want contacs with HUD. [10:33] A HUD projected on glasses would do decently in the market of people who want glasses but have no vision problems. [10:33] if glasses undetectable from standard specs (or contacts!) then a whole market of cheating students would be easy to tap ! [10:34] imagine the possibilities - market it to porn addicts. Huge market I bet. porn 24*7, at work, at home, while driving LOL [10:34] after all, porn is always an early adopter of new tech which aids in publishing ;) [10:35] *** samsam has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [10:35] Well.. At least they'll be easy identifiable walking around with huge boners ;) [10:36] back in the 90's when the first graphical browser was available a bunch of my techs at Data General croweded around an X display to have a look. I still recall scratching my head wondering how fast it would take off and in what direction, since just grabbing "information" had already been possible via gopher, ftp and such. My lead systems engineer, a true to life beareded Unix gnome, quite wisely [10:36] said: Porn. They'll run with this very fast. [10:37] nerdd: LOL LOL LOL [10:37] Sure, I believe that putting the right style, flash, and marketing on something will make it immensely popular. [10:37] Just not so sure that someone will do that to a HUD. [10:38] search for HMD at amazon, there's pleanty [10:38] just need to go from HMD to HUD [10:38] small step [10:39] The presence of a product doesn't guarantee its sale. [10:39] apparently 'head mounted display' yields more results but anyway [10:39] my point is not the proof or product [10:39] but the proof of marketing [10:40] Do these sell? [10:41] how would I determine that? amazon doesn't exactly have a `x people have bought y product' indicator [10:42] Yup. [10:46] Don't need an indicator. If they sold in volume you'd see them on the streets. You'd see an ecosystem of third party products spring up around them. [10:48] I mean they're obviously not popular now; just not sure what would cause them to become popular. [10:48] so far... neither. But sure, one day. At this point I'm less than impressed with small machine OS / human interfaces. I guess some of the phones are "ok" for what they do but they are not so much general purpose computers and personally all I ever want is the most powerful general purpose computer I can get [10:48] Unless toddf made some company dedicated to making them stylish. [10:48] try looking up the nokia n900 on youtube [10:48] mike-burns: porn. ok, how about a facebook app [10:48] toddf: I have a slightly older nokia tablet... [10:48] its a loonix system with 512mb mem. add an external display .. wallah [10:49] Its "ok". [10:49] I don't know anyone with a N900. Are they popular? [10:49] they are either coming out or just come out [10:49] my brother was impressed given they are one of the most open mobile devices coming out of a big company [10:50] Hurts my eyes unless wearing glasses so its not portable in some respects, for me, as my glasses live by my computer in my office... I still use it on the go of course [10:50] But it is a very good device... when they get the teething problems out of Maemo (perhaps have with the latest) and a bigger developer community could be strong [10:51] toddf: i was also impressed that Nokia is pushing it and in a relatively open manner too. [10:52] ... which is why I bought one in the first place. 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[21:49] anyone around? [21:49] i am [21:49] sbbpp: did you change the port that ssh was listening on? [21:49] for your server? [21:49] yes sir. [21:49] oh no im not an admin [21:49] err no your vps [21:51] no i didnt but i know how to [21:53] ahh doesn't look many attempts outside of my home ip range has hit my vps [21:53] scan wise? [21:54] yes sir. [21:54] well [21:54] sbbpp: yes heh [21:54] i stoped that with sshguard-ipfw [21:55] sbbpp: not sure if your a sir/ma'am haha [21:56] sir i guess [21:56] just a kid [21:56] ;d [21:56] sbbpp: ahh I just switch ports. I know it doesn't help with security. [21:56] ahh cool [21:56] well.. if you have ipfw enabled in kernel you can use what i use and leave it on port 22 [21:56] or just do it your route [21:57] I normally switch it to 443 so I can tunnel out from open wifi to a trust box :) [21:57] s/trust/trusted/ [21:58] ahh [21:58] airports/coffee shops are horrible places to surf. [21:59] i bet so [22:22] *** sroute has joined #arpnetworks [22:46] http://losingweightafterbaby.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/huge-hamburger.jpg [22:57] jeev: looks yummy [23:02] *** sroute has quit IRC ("WeeChat 0.3.0") [23:08] how's everyones' friday night [23:08] * up_the_irons is computin' [23:09] pretty alright [23:10] watching some sketch comedy and coding [23:11] why wont anyone code for me.. for free [23:27] people like to get paid for hard work [23:28] yeah [23:28] the key is to find people who are interested in the solving the same problems that you are [23:28] because people will solve their own problems for free [23:28] yeah [23:33] bah [23:33] i'm accepting free workers, they have to buy me lunch and coffee though [23:33] oh cool [23:34] what sort of stuff do you want coded? [23:34] or want to code [23:40] i dunno [23:40] hahahah [23:40] one line code to take over the world [23:41] one line is enough to take over the fox news viewership [23:48] i hear there's a CPAN module for that [23:48] lol