#arpnetworks 2009-10-22,Thu

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up_the_irons	up_the_irons is going through all the options of a modern BIOS, oh my!	[01:14]
obsidieth	:O	[01:20]
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visinin	fuck me sideways i do not understand termios	[01:35]
Rada	terminals? Or do you mean termios the serial programming thingy?	[01:42]
visinin	the serial programming functions in particular, struct termios and its associated flags	[01:45]
Rada	You know what, i understand it less than you do. Let that be your motivation.	[01:46]
visinin	haha word	[01:46]
Rada	If you got a beef with sh or bash, though, I can probably beat some sense into it.	[01:47]
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up_the_irons	lol visinin: what kind of serial programming are you doing?	[01:55]
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visinin	up_the_irons: it's some serial interfacing stuff for a human interface device a controller for music applications the problem i'm having is that, in rapid bursts, the serial messages to the controller get mangled and the display on it gets all jacked up so i think i'm going to try select()ing in the write function and waiting to see if maybe i'm overstuffing a buffer somewhere	[02:09]
up_the_irons	ah, flow control	[02:10]
visinin	could be i keep thinking that there's just something i've got to set in one of these _flags tcdrain() looks like it might help let's see	[02:10]
	well, hah! that seems to do the trick.	[02:19]
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vxp	hi, i was wondering which and what policies were to be of relevance given an [ingress] [d]DoS attack destined at a VPS within the network e.g. overage bandwidth billing, ...	[06:19]
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baklava_	was there a reset or something last night?	[08:17]
ballen	kernel panick panic*	[08:19]
baklava_	awesome	[08:20]
mhoran	Yep.	[08:25]
baklava_	blarg, I can't remember my portal pass and I'm not at home... could someone remind me of the VNC IP	[08:26]
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toddf	baklava: each unique physical server has a different ip..	[09:37]
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up_the_irons	baklava_: nevermind the VNC IP, if you don't know that, you won't know your port either ;) vxp: if you're asking about inbound DoS attack right off the bat, I probably don't want you as a customer ;)	[11:25]
vxp	lorf tru say	[11:27]
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up_the_irons	jesus christ Linux: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-852-1 lots of those are local exploits; sure glad the only box where others can login is an OpenBSD one ;)	[11:43]
ballen	prolly should not use linux ;-0	[11:44]
baklava_	up_the_irons: I just reset my password and grabbed it from my e-mail. I actually remembered the port because TightVNC always seems to truncate it to 2 digits when it is run	[11:47]
up_the_irons	baklava_: ah, LOL, ok :) ballen: nothing else runs KVM/QEMU as well as Linux though; oh well	[11:47]
ballen	yea I know... sucks	[11:48]
jeev	slackware on xen is 31337 non vt/amd-v capable lol too bad some of my servers are old shits now	[11:49]
up_the_irons	haha	[11:50]
jeev	the unixbench on wht scores better than my arp server but tha's because freebsd benchmark is very lo wlol but when comparing debian on the box to slackware, slackware is 4 total points higher i wonder if i did a bench on arp runnin glinux, how much itd be probably double	[11:50]
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up_the_irons	alpha, but promising if they can pull it off: http://lwn.net/Articles/357910/	[13:53]
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toddf	indeed, though I question the lack of security measures	[14:41]
ballen	up_the_irons: thats a very neat project	[14:43]
up_the_irons	yeah	[14:44]
ballen	love to see perf numbers on that lame written in java	[14:44]
toddf	though one could easily say 'put it on its own vlan' or whatever, since fiberchannel has zero security too java?	[14:45]
ballen	http://www.osrg.net/sheepdog/usage.html	[14:46]
up_the_irons	ballen: written in java? omfg	[14:46]
toddf	EPIFAIL EPICFAIL	[14:46]
ballen	glad we're all on the same page then	[14:46]
toddf	lots of .c and .h in the (small) srcs to be java fully	[14:47]
ballen	yea its just the dog portion of the program	[14:48]
toddf	and I've yet to discover what that does	[14:48]
ballen	yea no idea	[14:48]
toddf	todd@liberty/p7 ~/sheepdog-2009102101/dog/src/net/osrg/sheepdog�1585$ pwd /home/todd/sheepdog-2009102101/dog/src/net/osrg/sheepdog todd@liberty/p7 ~/sheepdog-2009102101/dog/src/net/osrg/sheepdog�1586$ ls ClusterInformation.java MasterGroup.java SheepdogException.java	[14:49]
ballen	I think its the agent on the storage nodes	[14:49]
toddf	Connection.java Node.java SuperObject.java ConnectionCallback.java NodeList.java VdiOperator.java DirEntry.java NodeLogOperator.java headers/ Inode.java ObjectOperator.java messages/ Log.java OpCode.java Master.java Sheepdog.java this does not look good	[14:49]
ballen	java's usually fast, just takes up a lot of memory and is lame as hell to install	[14:49]
mike-burns	Yeah, my only issue with Java is the installation.	[14:50]
toddf	I have a friend who likes to use it because it is portable	[14:50]
ballen	yea	[14:50]
toddf	portable my ass, which version of java does what random java program want?	[14:50]
mike-burns	Is it?	[14:50]
ballen	thats the whole point of java	[14:50]
toddf	so you end up needing N jdk's for M programs	[14:50]
ballen	its portable	[14:50]
toddf	it is capable of being ported sure	[14:50]
mike-burns	ballen: Nah, the whole point of Java is C++ with GC.	[14:51]
ballen	mmk	[14:51]
mike-burns	The whole "write once, run everywhere" was slapped on by marketing after the fact.	[14:51]
ballen	so anyone have like a 80 node cluster laying around we could set this sucker up on ah	[14:51]
toddf	my OpenBSD/macppc and OpenBSD/sparc and OpenBSD/zaurus and OpenBSD/sgi and OpenBSD/alpha and OpenBSD/hppa and OpenBSD/sparc64 and OpenBSD/mac68k systems have _no hope_ of running java	[14:51]
ballen	yea	[14:51]
vxp	nice zaurus	[14:51]
ballen	no java on OpenBSD	[14:51]
mike-burns	I had to join #freebsd to figure out how to install Java.	[14:52]
ballen	can run it on FreeBSD though	[14:52]
toddf	java works fine on i386 and amd64	[14:52]
ballen	heh	[14:52]
toddf	just that porting it to other archs is pain and the one person who does a lot of OpenBSD work only has so much time...	[14:52]
up_the_irons	java is hardly portable; honestly, more code written in C runs on more platforms than any other language on the planet; this about that for a sec	[14:52]
toddf	that and to bootstrap w/out native bins from another arch one must have gcj and other things that are not fully working on random archs etc	[14:52]
up_the_irons	s/this/think/	[14:52]
mike-burns	Lots of high-level languages (with compilers/interpreters written in C) will run everywhere; Ruby, Scheme, Python, etc.	[14:53]
toddf	I agree. java is the least ported language. however, if you consider the %'age of users running systems capable of running java, things start to change, vs %'age of platforms and os's and such..	[14:54]
mike-burns	Yup, it's like Flash.	[14:54]
toddf	except flash works on my OpenBSD/macppc via gnash (well sortof but better than nothing)	[14:54]
ballen	wonder how much load Sheepdog would put on your network and relistically what you would need to run a cluster	[14:54]
toddf	one or two systems I also note the lack of IPv6 support	[14:55]
up_the_irons	mike-burns: the thing with that is, if you can't run the interpreter, your code can't be ported to that platform (think embedded systems). so in a sense, C is more portal than Ruby, Python, etc... it has less dependencies	[14:55]
mike-burns	up_the_irons: Agreed.	[14:55]
up_the_irons	s/portal/portable/	[14:56]
mike-burns	(And s/less/fewer/)	[14:56]
toddf	the only case of AF_INET6 in their whole tree has to do with binding to a socket, and I daresay that's to support the abhorrent practice of v4 mapped v6 addressing in loonix	[14:56]
up_the_irons	ballen: bonding a couple GigE NICs, for just the I/O backend, for throughput of 2 Gbps full-duplex, would probably take care of any network issues	[14:56]
mike-burns	Pure historical coincidence that C is so portable; systems people just decided to port C instead of whatevre other langauges were lying around at the time (LISP, Smalltalk, FORTH, etc.). Good marketing helps.	[14:56]
up_the_irons	ballen: the disks would be slower	[14:57]
ballen	up_the_irons: problem being your writting out to X number of nodes for replication	[14:57]
up_the_irons	toddf: funny, Qsource (not present) who is a FreeBSD guy, always calls Linux "lunix" ;) ballen: yeah, there's gonna be some slowness there; only question is "how much" ballen: and can the replication happen asynchronously ?	[14:57]
ballen	yep exactly	[14:58]
toddf	the concept in general seems decent	[15:00]
up_the_irons	wth, my S.M.A.R.T. munin plugins don't work after a reboot on this new box.. but after a fiddle, they work again; not sure what i did	[15:00]
ballen	smart is dumb sometimes	[15:00]
toddf	if you have a large number of systems it could read from mem cache if it were actively reading/writing to/from blocks	[15:00]
up_the_irons	mike-burns: yeah	[15:01]
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toddf	it also reminds me a lot about gfs	[15:12]
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obsidieth	man im getting like 100 bad auth attempts an hour	[17:41]
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up_the_irons	obsidieth: same IP, or different?	[17:48]
obsidieth	different. all compromised its like	[17:48]
up_the_irons	ah	[17:48]
obsidieth	random girl or service name with no password ive seen it before, but not this much	[17:48]
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obsidieth	foreign cable lines afaik	[17:51]
ballen	obsidieth: just turn off password auth	[17:53]
up_the_irons	i c	[17:53]
obsidieth	theres a reasonable amount of people using it :\| i mean i could, but id rather not	[17:54]
vxp	hi @ sshguard	[17:54]
obsidieth	its like 2 attempts per ip, ish.	[17:54]
ballen	yea sshguard is good if you're running pf on FreeBSD or OpenBSD theres an easy way built in to it	[17:54]
obsidieth	oh here we go	[17:55]
vxp	hi @ solely pass'ing TCP:22 for the subset of known IP addresses	[17:55]
obsidieth	http://charles.the-haleys.org/ssh_dictionary_attacks.php lots are in that. success	[17:55]
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ballen	so bored	[19:01]
visinin	write a blogging engine	[19:01]
ballen	done that: http://github.com/unilogic/scanty-redis well thats a fork but heavily modified	[19:01]
visinin	haha touche rewrite it in haskell	[19:02]
ballen	fuck that not really a fan of anything thats not ruby	[19:02]
visinin	well that's just a shame	[19:03]
ballen	meh not really	[19:03]
visinin	you should try erlang! it is delicious.	[19:03]
ballen	I'm sure it is I really don't want to take the time to learn a new lang nor do I want a language thats slower to program in	[19:04]
visinin	but you've never even used it :( how can you make such an accusation?	[19:05]
ballen	what language is easier than Ruby?	[19:05]
visinin	honestly i can't stand ruby so any of them :) python's its main competitor i rock with python i mean i'll backpedal a bit ruby is a pretty dope language i just don't like it all that much	[19:06]
ballen	and thats how I feel about Python	[19:07]
visinin	fair :D but there are other languages in the world	[19:07]
ballen	that there are	[19:07]
visinin	haskell and erlang are funky if you're not used to functional stuff but then you've got, like, lua or maybe io why the lucky stiff likes io!	[19:07]
ballen	ballen checking out IO so whats the point of IO	[19:08]
visinin	it's a language that does some cool things just like all the other languages!	[19:11]
up_the_irons	lua is pretty damn fast i found lua pretty damn easy to pick up just by looking	[19:11]
visinin	and by learning more languages you will be able to change your perspective on software development as a whole that is pretty cool yeah lua's pretty straightforward	[19:11]
up_the_irons	i've only used lua to make imapfilter scripts, but it was a pleasant experience	[19:11]
ballen	visinin: yea to be honest I'm very unlikely to pick up a new language not my forte	[19:12]
visinin	fair enough what do you do mostly, then?	[19:12]
ballen	SA	[19:13]
visinin	SA?	[19:13]
ballen	systems administration	[19:13]
visinin	ah, gotcha	[19:13]
ballen	and code on stuff for fun for example http://unilogiclabs.com is a Sinatra app with Redis db backend which is turns out is not as scalable as I thought it'd be, the redis db part	[19:13]
up_the_irons	http://www.arpnetworks.com is a Sinatra app :)	[19:14]
ballen	I'd use something like Cassandra, but I really would rather not have to install Java could make Redis scalable, I have basic hash ring with replication setup	[19:15]
up_the_irons	ballen: Java is the evil about Cassandra, true, but we're using it at DigiSynd with great success; it is FREAKIN' FAST!!!!	[19:16]
ballen	but no managment of nodes coming and going up_the_irons: yea I imagine it is	[19:16]
up_the_irons	ballen: the nice thing about cassandra is it is inherently redundant; master / slave replication is a major fail for HA	[19:16]
ballen	does Cassandra have more complex data structures, sets, list, etc	[19:17]
up_the_irons	TODAY IS INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY	[19:17]
ballen	wtf a search for Cassandra on google turns up some interesting google image results wtf=btw wierd	[19:17]
up_the_irons	ballen: KEY / VALUE, AND THE VALUES CAN HAVE COLUMS *COLUMNS	[19:18]
ballen	columns eh	[19:18]
visinin	chicago boss looks really cool	[19:18]
ballen	sooo explain columns	[19:18]
up_the_irons	why yes it does: http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/celebs/cassandralynn/cassandra_lynn_1.jpg	[19:19]
ballen	thats the one	[19:19]
up_the_irons	ballen: like google BigTable YOU GUYS APPARENTLY DON'T BELIEVE ME: http://capslockday.com/	[19:19]
ballen	nah just annoying	[19:20]
up_the_irons	LOL	[19:20]
ballen	it'd be an interesting study to search for girls first names compare google image results make conclusions based on name	[19:23]
	yea it looks like Cassandra can emulate any data structure i'd need btw Scribe is a pretty nifty centralized log service if you need such a thing	[19:33]
sroute	WHAT DAY IS CAPSLOCK DAY?	[19:38]
ballen	omg	[19:39]
visinin	CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL	[19:39]
ballen	FINE	[19:39]
sroute	sroute doesn't have a capslock anymore	[19:39]
sbp__	OCTOBER 22	[19:39]
ballen	BTW http://github.com/NZKoz/cassandra_object/	[19:39]
sroute	I remapped Caps Lock to CNTRL a lloooooooooooong time ago.	[19:39]
ballen	LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD DUE NICELY	[19:39]
sroute	CAPSLOCKDAY.COM has very little CAPSLOCK on it. oh, you mean TYPE IN CAPS LOCK, not throw around the little caps lock keys... Apparently the page maintainer can't speel verry gud. "Good night sweat prince" http://caps-lock.blogspot.com/	[19:40]
ballen	well	[19:41]
sroute	There is a fight going on in Caps Lock land. lol Tomorrow is International Num Lock day.	[19:41]
ballen	what in the hell is that	[19:42]
sroute	Hard to detect in IRC that's for sure. Next tuesday is International Overwrite Day. See... originally I wrote "monday" and then "overwrote" monday with tuesday and you were none the wiser. Very cool day indeed.	[19:43]
ballen	sigh...	[19:44]
sroute	it's been a long day. curse you up_the_irons sroute is looking forward to National SysRq day. The day of fear, loathing, and much juju magic.	[19:44]
ballen	lol	[19:48]
sroute	CURSE YOU up_the_irons	[19:48]
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jeev	wow caps lock day that would be terrible	[20:07]
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sroute	up_the_irons started it secretly he is behind CAPS LOCK DAY	[20:19]
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obsidieth	http://bugs.irssi.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=712	[20:50]
ballen	har	[20:51]
mike-burns	"Lunch break is over already. Elementary school awaits you."	[20:51]
mhoran	Haha.	[20:51]
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ballen	ballen installing Windows 7 in a VM	[21:06]
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sroute	obsidieth: LOL, ON BEHALF OF CAPS-LOCK DAY CELEBRANTS THE WORLD OVER. AND YES, IT IS STILL CAPS-LOCK DAY HERE IN MY ZONE. sroute notes another 2 1/4 hours of caps-lock day her.e Tomorrow is ran.do!m p-unc`ua%tio)n $da^y.	[21:42]
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sroute	sroute ought to put a bug report on CAPSLOCK day on the weechat bug tracker... ... but instead will go pour a glass of wine and shut off the displays for awhile, to the delight of a few.	[21:44]
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d^_^b	BAH I MISSED CAPS LOCK DAY!	[22:38]
ballen	to bad	[22:38]
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up_the_irons	hycer? hycer: welcome to #arpnetworks, don't think I've seen you around before	[23:32]
hycer	Hey Garry ya i just love to change nick sometimes :P	[23:33]
up_the_irons	LOL	[23:34]
ballen	HAH	[23:34]
up_the_irons	well NEVERMIND THEN	[23:34]
hycer	whats wrong? :O	[23:35]
up_the_irons	nothing :) Some of my friends with bigger hosting companies all have Facebook pages for their co. One day, I will probably break down and have to do the same	[23:35]
ballen	what in the world would Arp Networks possibly gain from doing that Facebook is a stupid platform just everyone and the freaking brother happens to be on it	[23:37]
up_the_irons	who knows	[23:38]
ballen	I guess more SEO	[23:38]
up_the_irons	I'd gain FANS ;)	[23:39]
ballen	gawd	[23:39]
up_the_irons	yea i don't care	[23:39]
ballen	anyone know if its possible to jigger two 110 circuits to output 220v	[23:40]
up_the_irons	ballen: yes, it is, if they are of opposite phase	[23:41]
ballen	yea?	[23:41]
up_the_irons	ballen: that's actually how it is done, just at the breaker panel	[23:42]
ballen	ah yea that makes sense since each leg of 220 is a 110 circuit	[23:42]
up_the_irons	up_the_irons hooked up a 50A 220V circuit in his garage ballen: exactly	[23:43]
ballen	so thinking apartment wiring figuring out if I could run a 220v espresso machine figuring I couple of options spliter on the oven	[23:43]
up_the_irons	i remember seeing a device that would take 2 110V inputs and give you a 220V, and it detected the phase and such	[23:44]
ballen	http://www.quick220.com	[23:44]
up_the_irons	yup, that's it if your oven is 220v, I would just split that	[23:44]
ballen	curious why its so expensive yea just have to check amperages on the machine and oven	[23:45]
up_the_irons	not sure	[23:45]
ballen	I'd hate to burn the apartment down	[23:45]
up_the_irons	the espresso machine wouldn't take more than the oven, i don't think...	[23:46]
ballen	by accidentally leaving the machine on and turning the oven on	[23:46]
hycer	9am here..italian coffee incoming	[23:46]
ballen	i suppose that'd just trip the breaker	[23:46]
up_the_irons	well, even if you did, if the wiring is correct, it should just trip the breaker	[23:46]
ballen	then the only problem would be if the oven is hard wired instead of a plug	[23:47]
up_the_irons	right	[23:47]
ballen	bah should just keep looking for a 110 machine	[23:47]
up_the_irons	yeah	[23:48]
ballen	be a different story if I had my own place	[23:48]
up_the_irons	i mean, you'd think they make those things with common voltage	[23:48]
ballen	yea	[23:48]
up_the_irons	220v sounds commercial grade	[23:48]
ballen	yea it is ;-)	[23:48]
up_the_irons	hah	[23:49]
ballen	big league'in the espresso	[23:49]
up_the_irons	but if it is just for you, do you really need a commercial grade appliance?	[23:49]
ballen	no theres a lot of used commercial machines on ebay, craigslist, etc for cheap cheaper than a good prosumer one thinking lots of cafes are going out of business around the country or small restaurants offloading some higher cost equipment	[23:49]
up_the_irons	ah i c	[23:51]
ballen	so its a money/quality thing	[23:51]
hycer	Here we use the good old Moka Express :P	[23:52]
jeev	wow, bought ram.. shipped to datacenter minutes away from installing it, i realize that it's fbsd 7.2 i386 ;) i didn't do 64bit accidently	[23:54]
ballen	doesn't 7.2 have PAE by default and will support more ram just fine	[23:55]
jeev	real memory = 3487907840 (3326 MB) avail memory = 3407319040 (3249 MB) should have 4x1024	[23:55]
up_the_irons	turn on PAE	[23:55]
ballen	options PAE recompile kernel or just reinstall x64	[23:56]
jeev	very very very very very very very important server does around 230 megs i'd get my throat slashed if pae broke	[23:57]
ballen	yea there is some fun warning in the handbook blah blah not very well tested wouldn't worry about it its FreeBSD	[23:58]
jeev	i cant risk it	[23:59]

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