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zen- has joined #arpnetworks zen-: any sales (not salesman per say as much as a person who can answer my questions) in here? ballen: I'm a customer, but can answer most questions
up_the_irons is the only staff member in here right now and he looks away zen-: What vps software is used (vmware/xen/other?) ballen: KVM/Qemu
so its full virtulization zen-: never played with that before
hmf
does it support web browser applet to connect to it or client software? ballen: for BSD i'd say its the faster way of doing virtulization sroute: vnc to console ballen: yea sroute: you can compile and install your own kernel zen-: isn't vnc not encrypted? ballen: you can ssh tunnel the traffic if needed
there is also a ssh server setup to access to console zen-: ssh into the qemu machine you mean? ballen: which is in beta sroute: ballen: interesting, I didn't know that
cool ballen: sroute yea Garry has it in testing sroute: not that I need the console very often ;) ballen: basically doing console redirect zen-: does this hoster require me to use their own mail server like godaddy? I need to run qmail/ezmlm-idx and run a mailing list jeev: zen-, its like having your own server ballen: can run whatever the heck ya like jeev: do anything legitimate on it zen-: godaddy lets you have a vps but charges email quota's on messages going out sroute: its a VPS - you'll need to provide whatever *you* need. No quota. zen-: and forces you to use their mail server sroute: NO jeev: zen-, that's unfortunate. godaddy sucks in my opinion ;) zen-: how fast is the upload pipe? sroute: you'll need to run your own, sounds like that's what you want zen-: yeah godaddy sucks for hosting sroute: zen-: dunno; their network overall seems very nice. good for Asia too if you need that. zen-: nah US mostly ballen: to test download: http://arpnetworks.com/100mb.bin mhoran: You get free IPv6, too. :) zen-: 2.3Mbytes
not to bad ballen: up_the_irons is always adding new peering arrangements as well zen-: 4.5mbyte -: zen- is on gig pipe :) jeev: in nj ?
new hampshire zen-: no
but your whois skills are truely amazing jeev: boston?
lol -: zen- gives jeev a cookie
jeev gives zen a cock mike-burns: ... -: zen- puts it in jeev's mouth ballen: wiiierd jeev: hahaha
zen-, i dont appreciate your sarcasm in the beginning zen-: thanks great, I don't appreciate your noseyness jeev: that's why you mask your host
you said you're on a gigabit pipe, 199 looks foreign to me so i looked ballen: now now don't get snarky you two
zen-, Arpnetworks is really a good hosting env, its a small company, but has a really good niche market if you like *BSD zen-: yeah looking for openbsd 4.6 vps hosting jeev: ballen, not only BSD.. but it's the best VPS i've found in the west, for the price and quality. zen-: more a fbsd kinda guy but don't want to do much in the way of patching for security issues and only running 2 services ballen: yea true
no reason you can't run Linux jeev: zen-, you should consider it or let us know your other choices so we could talk the other choices down
and think about it, if you're in here more often, we can fight more. zen-: ballen yeah I'm all about helping the smaller companies when I can sroute: man, walk away and the kids start playing nasty. jeev: :> mike-burns: I don't understand what's going on.
Why is jeev attacking some dude? zen-: jeev boredom I suspect ballen: playful banter jeev: i wasn't attacking him sroute: zen-: Garry is a grown up. Good solid company, he's dedicated. Been around a while. Priced right. I run my own gear elsewhere but keep a VM here because I enjoy seeing a good shop run, and ultimately I'm going to move to more virtual machines as I turn off physical boxes elsewhere. zen-: i'm running a colo now, but it lives 3200 miles away and rather do the vps thing so if I nuke the machine by accident (or a patch fucks it up) I can simply restore a snapshot jeev: zen-, arp is a good choice sroute: been running colo since 2000; I'm in Vancouver, my gear was in NYC until earlier this year. Managed not to screw up my box in all those years
that's the farthest one away. Colo in Canada >>>> $$$ jeev: i have a lot of servers colo'd
i really want a los angeles peer 1 sroute: I'm enjoying having Garry manage the "hardware'. One less thing for me to do.
I really want a Vancouver peer 1 or something of that nature.
There is one good guy in town that does that, a bunch of others who are "ok". Costs way higher here though. jeev: sroute, there's some people doing bgp4 peer1 in vancouver i thin
some netelligent thing sroute: once in a while I check out what the locals are doing but am not keen to jump in big right now. Slowing down my work to take time with kids, family, house renos. Speaking of that... gotta run and pick up my tile and light orders. later. jeev: later ballen: hmm prolly should shower before my conference call...
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ballen|away is now known as ballen toddf: sroute: see if bsdvm works for you, I'm dropping my host there given that I can't stand that they're dedicating a public IP to me then binat'ing it to my vm, and the pain that is vmware console .. ***: vtoms has joined #arpnetworks sroute: toddf: I'm quite sure that bsdvm would not appeal to me ;) toddf: hehe. they are in vancouver, which is the only reason I mentioned them sroute: ah, I didn't know that
their domain traces to iweb in Montreal toddf: oops sorry canada, not vancouver sorry ;-( sroute: Big place here. toddf: heh sroute: Really, really, big. LOL
if only Russia would break up into a few smaller countries, then we'd be the biggest on the planet. But #2 is big enough.
Mind you... much of it is frozen and a good deal of it uninhabitable
and... what's worse.... toddf: we talk of going to mars, so define uninhabitable ;-) sroute: much of it doesn't have high speed net connections LOL
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heavysixer has quit IRC () sroute: "Night of 1000 jails" http://ivoras.sharanet.org/blog/tree/2009-10-20.the-night-of-1000-jails.html
Garry: please do not get ideas ;-) toddf: jails... are close to virtuosso.. ***: visinin has quit IRC ("sleep") sroute: useful at the end user level up_the_irons: not really into jails obsidieth: you dont have anything to do with cycle/ircvps do you up_the_irons up_the_irons: no obsidieth: i thought as much ***: ballen has joined #arpnetworks