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| zen- | any sales (not salesman per say as much as a person who can answer my questions) in here? | [11:09] |
| ballen | I'm a customer, but can answer most questions
up_the_irons is the only staff member in here right now and he looks away | [11:10] |
| zen- | What vps software is used (vmware/xen/other?) | [11:11] |
| ballen | KVM/Qemu
so its full virtulization | [11:11] |
| zen- | never played with that before
hmf does it support web browser applet to connect to it or client software? | [11:14] |
| ballen | for BSD i'd say its the faster way of doing virtulization | [11:14] |
| sroute | vnc to console | [11:14] |
| ballen | yea | [11:14] |
| sroute | you can compile and install your own kernel | [11:15] |
| zen- | isn't vnc not encrypted? | [11:15] |
| ballen | you can ssh tunnel the traffic if needed
there is also a ssh server setup to access to console | [11:15] |
| zen- | ssh into the qemu machine you mean? | [11:15] |
| ballen | which is in beta | [11:15] |
| sroute | ballen: interesting, I didn't know that
cool | [11:15] |
| ballen | sroute yea Garry has it in testing | [11:15] |
| sroute | not that I need the console very often ;) | [11:15] |
| ballen | basically doing console redirect | [11:16] |
| zen- | does this hoster require me to use their own mail server like godaddy? I need to run qmail/ezmlm-idx and run a mailing list | [11:16] |
| jeev | zen-, its like having your own server | [11:16] |
| ballen | can run whatever the heck ya like | [11:16] |
| jeev | do anything legitimate on it | [11:16] |
| zen- | godaddy lets you have a vps but charges email quota's on messages going out | [11:16] |
| sroute | its a VPS - you'll need to provide whatever *you* need. No quota. | [11:16] |
| zen- | and forces you to use their mail server | [11:16] |
| sroute | NO | [11:16] |
| jeev | zen-, that's unfortunate. godaddy sucks in my opinion ;) | [11:16] |
| zen- | how fast is the upload pipe? | [11:17] |
| sroute | you'll need to run your own, sounds like that's what you want | [11:17] |
| zen- | yeah godaddy sucks for hosting | [11:17] |
| sroute | zen-: dunno; their network overall seems very nice. good for Asia too if you need that. | [11:17] |
| zen- | nah US mostly | [11:17] |
| ballen | to test download: http://arpnetworks.com/100mb.bin | [11:18] |
| mhoran | You get free IPv6, too. :) | [11:18] |
| zen- | 2.3Mbytes
not to bad | [11:18] |
| ballen | up_the_irons is always adding new peering arrangements as well | [11:18] |
| zen- | 4.5mbyte
zen- is on gig pipe :) | [11:18] |
| jeev | in nj ?
new hampshire | [11:19] |
| zen- | no
but your whois skills are truely amazing | [11:19] |
| jeev | boston?
lol | [11:19] |
| zen- | zen- gives jeev a cookie | [11:19] |
| jeev | jeev gives zen a cock | [11:19] |
| mike-burns | ... | [11:19] |
| zen- | zen- puts it in jeev's mouth | [11:19] |
| ballen | wiiierd | [11:20] |
| jeev | hahaha
zen-, i dont appreciate your sarcasm in the beginning | [11:23] |
| zen- | thanks great, I don't appreciate your noseyness | [11:24] |
| jeev | that's why you mask your host
you said you're on a gigabit pipe, 199 looks foreign to me so i looked | [11:25] |
| ballen | now now don't get snarky you two
zen-, Arpnetworks is really a good hosting env, its a small company, but has a really good niche market if you like *BSD | [11:26] |
| zen- | yeah looking for openbsd 4.6 vps hosting | [11:27] |
| jeev | ballen, not only BSD.. but it's the best VPS i've found in the west, for the price and quality. | [11:27] |
| zen- | more a fbsd kinda guy but don't want to do much in the way of patching for security issues and only running 2 services | [11:27] |
| ballen | yea true
no reason you can't run Linux | [11:27] |
| jeev | zen-, you should consider it or let us know your other choices so we could talk the other choices down
and think about it, if you're in here more often, we can fight more. | [11:29] |
| zen- | ballen yeah I'm all about helping the smaller companies when I can | [11:29] |
| sroute | man, walk away and the kids start playing nasty. | [11:30] |
| jeev | :> | [11:30] |
| mike-burns | I don't understand what's going on.
Why is jeev attacking some dude? | [11:30] |
| zen- | jeev boredom I suspect | [11:31] |
| ballen | playful banter | [11:31] |
| jeev | i wasn't attacking him | [11:31] |
| sroute | zen-: Garry is a grown up. Good solid company, he's dedicated. Been around a while. Priced right. I run my own gear elsewhere but keep a VM here because I enjoy seeing a good shop run, and ultimately I'm going to move to more virtual machines as I turn off physical boxes elsewhere. | [11:31] |
| zen- | i'm running a colo now, but it lives 3200 miles away and rather do the vps thing so if I nuke the machine by accident (or a patch fucks it up) I can simply restore a snapshot | [11:32] |
| jeev | zen-, arp is a good choice | [11:42] |
| sroute | been running colo since 2000; I'm in Vancouver, my gear was in NYC until earlier this year. Managed not to screw up my box in all those years
that's the farthest one away. Colo in Canada >>>> $$$ | [11:44] |
| jeev | i have a lot of servers colo'd
i really want a los angeles peer 1 | [11:45] |
| sroute | I'm enjoying having Garry manage the "hardware'. One less thing for me to do.
I really want a Vancouver peer 1 or something of that nature. There is one good guy in town that does that, a bunch of others who are "ok". Costs way higher here though. | [11:46] |
| jeev | sroute, there's some people doing bgp4 peer1 in vancouver i thin
some netelligent thing | [11:49] |
| sroute | once in a while I check out what the locals are doing but am not keen to jump in big right now. Slowing down my work to take time with kids, family, house renos. Speaking of that... gotta run and pick up my tile and light orders. later. | [11:52] |
| jeev | later | [11:52] |
| ballen | hmm prolly should shower before my conference call...
be back in a bit | [11:53] |
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| toddf | sroute: see if bsdvm works for you, I'm dropping my host there given that I can't stand that they're dedicating a public IP to me then binat'ing it to my vm, and the pain that is vmware console .. | [13:01] |
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| sroute | toddf: I'm quite sure that bsdvm would not appeal to me ;) | [13:25] |
| toddf | hehe. they are in vancouver, which is the only reason I mentioned them | [13:29] |
| sroute | ah, I didn't know that
their domain traces to iweb in Montreal | [13:30] |
| toddf | oops sorry canada, not vancouver sorry ;-( | [13:32] |
| sroute | Big place here. | [13:32] |
| toddf | heh | [13:32] |
| sroute | Really, really, big. LOL
if only Russia would break up into a few smaller countries, then we'd be the biggest on the planet. But #2 is big enough. Mind you... much of it is frozen and a good deal of it uninhabitable and... what's worse.... | [13:32] |
| toddf | we talk of going to mars, so define uninhabitable ;-) | [13:33] |
| sroute | much of it doesn't have high speed net connections LOL
(the far north) | [13:33] |
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| sroute | "Night of 1000 jails" http://ivoras.sharanet.org/blog/tree/2009-10-20.the-night-of-1000-jails.html
Garry: please do not get ideas ;-) | [21:30] |
| toddf | jails... are close to virtuosso.. | [21:44] |
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| sroute | useful at the end user level | [22:31] |
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| up_the_irons | not really into jails | [23:07] |
| obsidieth | you dont have anything to do with cycle/ircvps do you up_the_irons | [23:21] |
| up_the_irons | no | [23:22] |
| obsidieth | i thought as much | [23:22] |
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