hi where are the servers of arpnetworks? rumour has it they are in underground bunkers in an undisclosed location ?? The most I know is "California". joking. up_the_irons will answer such questions, I'm merely a client LA area I believe. how is support to europe? dunno. Really good to Asia/Australia though. do you have a test ip? Maybe up_the_irons is around to answer... Here's a test IP from their support pages http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/ip-address-for-ping-tests thx 170ms to europe :( can't please everyone! for the record, yes, my servers are in Los Angeles west coast only; thought about getting some east coast space, but that is blue sky at the moment samferry: welcome to #arpnetworks, your nick looks new up_the_irons, uh up_the_irons, pretty sure i've been coming here for a while now up_the_irons, maybe i forgot to join on my last irc session :s up_the_irons, just reconfigured xchat and my NX server, as well as reinstalling the OS on this box ; probably why i haven't been in here samferry: maybe my mind is toast then... up_the_irons, lol I am not forgotten, just idling cuz I like to read scrollback for entertainment when bored ;-) 'Join us in #arpnetworks, for amusement, when you are bored' ;) the new securecrt is getting on my nerves it's minimizing the screen pretty much in a screen what do youg uys use in windows lol win-what? Putty / Putty Connection Manager I use 'reboot' and 'boot> bsd.rd' from windows to shatter windows into a free os .. putty, i connect to 30 servers at once :/ connection manager helps with that...30 might be a stretch hehehe Windows handle 30 instances of anything?? heh that's why securecrt does tabs connection manager has tabs but isn't quite as tab-friendly as securecrt it's good for about 5 servers...many more and you go crazy hunting tabs hmm i dunno, securecrt is setting my termcap or whatever it is very small after i screen even if i exit the screen but if i open it back up in putty it's the whole window well it only does it in freebsd, not linux windows? huh? I confess. I am running a windows client somewhere here. but spend much of my day in dwm running on a FreeBSD box. Sometimes connect to that via XMing running on a XP box. Works surprisingly well. up_the_irons, who is your cc merchant windows done rule for desktop use games and stuffs up_the_irons: is there an internal ntp server we can use instead of pool.ntp.org? i think i've used an entire 2 mb on my VPS for months 2 months 2 megs of transfer, not megabits. jeev: how can we tell the amount we have used? email support and ask for usage graphs ah :D i haven't even requested it but i've still yhet to find something to do with my vps I don't want to bug support for that. jeev: irc client for me, and going to be my dev server ahh cool what you codd code web development (Perl/catalyst) still learning. ah jeev: you were asking about what language to learn recently right? yea you give anything a try yet? i'm understanding PHP better you have to remember i diagnosed myself with adhd i have a nasty focusing disability so im trying to fight through it, ive been succesful my entire life, made a lot of money but i can't call myself anything at computers unless if i can code cool, just practice and you will come s/you/it/ yea what's more important for me to understand is CSS i think and HTML before i get into PHP cause PHP seems sort of easy with all the examples the difficult part for me is getting the look of it css/jquery/html yea jeev: yeah CSS can do some crazy stuff. learning man css zengarden is a fun site to look at. I haven't looked at it for awhile. jeev: are you reading any books on xhtml/css? ahh no man i can't read books, are you kidding me cool site, dont like the designs but great examples jeev: you can change the design, some of them are very very nice. yea my problem right now is formatting it properly, it's giving me a headache jeev: like ie/firefox/*? eh i dont think that's it jeev: this is on of my favorites http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=189/189.css scroll the page :) for example: http://git.kernel.org/?p=virt/kvm/qemu-kvm.git;a=summary securecrt is awesome. obsidieth, not 6.5! dj_goku, see how everything is formatted? time, name and text? i can't get that to work for me. i took the stylesheet to play with the situation is that the left text for me is a name, then on the right side it's a drop down, so it doesn't come down straight in rows i use some ancient portable version at least i did. jeev: I am lost I don't see a time/name text. sec http://imgbin.org/images/831.jpg sorry for blurring it ;D i want to make it properly separated no matter how short/long text is haha no problem. so you want the all names to align and all the drop down's to align. yea dj_goku: no internal ntp server, sorry up_the_irons: just didn't want to waste network bandwidth/traffic :D dj_goku: hah, hardly uses anything ;) up_the_irons: I was looking at the time on my VPS was LIKE WOW, so I set it to my timezone and looked at ntpd.conf and wondered. right toddf: why am I finding a way to remove a user from a group in OpenBSD, without simply editing /etc/group, hard to do? usermod -G , will only add the group how the heck do I remove a user from the group....