[01:53] *** b3lsatar has quit IRC () [06:32] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [06:36] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [06:36] *** vtoms has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [06:36] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [09:01] *** Nat_UB has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [09:04] *** heavysixer has quit IRC ("BAMPF!") [11:37] *** vtoms has left [11:57] *** Rada has joined #arpnetworks [11:59] *** Rada_ has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [12:03] *** shafire has joined #arpnetworks [12:03] hi [12:03] where are the servers of arpnetworks? [12:04] rumour has it they are in underground bunkers in an undisclosed location [12:04] ?? [12:04] The most I know is "California". [12:04] joking. up_the_irons will answer such questions, I'm merely a client [12:04] LA area I believe. [12:04] how is support to europe? [12:05] dunno. Really good to Asia/Australia though. [12:05] do you have a test ip? [12:05] Maybe up_the_irons is around to answer... [12:06] Here's a test IP from their support pages [12:06] http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/ip-address-for-ping-tests [12:10] thx [12:42] *** nerdd_ has joined #arpnetworks [12:42] 170ms to europe :( [12:49] *** nerdd has quit IRC (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) [12:55] *** shafire has quit IRC ("leaving") [12:58] can't please everyone! [13:24] *** timburke has quit IRC (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [13:24] *** jester1 has quit IRC (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [13:34] *** jester1 has joined #arpnetworks [13:34] *** timburke has joined #arpnetworks [14:12] *** nerdd_ is now known as nerdd [14:41] *** jeev has quit IRC (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) [14:49] *** jeev has joined #arpnetworks [15:13] *** samferry has joined #arpnetworks [15:15] for the record, yes, my servers are in Los Angeles [15:16] west coast only; thought about getting some east coast space, but that is blue sky at the moment [15:19] samferry: welcome to #arpnetworks, your nick looks new [15:24] * up_the_irons wonders how many people idling are logins buried deep within some forgotten screen session [15:24] up_the_irons, uh [15:24] up_the_irons, pretty sure i've been coming here for a while now [15:24] up_the_irons, maybe i forgot to join on my last irc session :s [15:24] up_the_irons, just reconfigured xchat and my NX server, as well as reinstalling the OS on this box ; probably why i haven't been in here [15:24] samferry: maybe my mind is toast then... [15:24] up_the_irons, lol [15:44] *** Nat_RH has joined #arpnetworks [16:51] *** timburke has quit IRC ("Leaving") [16:51] *** timburke has joined #arpnetworks [17:49] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [17:54] *** vtoms has quit IRC (Client Quit) [18:18] I am not forgotten, just idling cuz I like to read scrollback for entertainment when bored ;-) [18:20] 'Join us in #arpnetworks, for amusement, when you are bored' [18:20] ;) [18:20] the new securecrt is getting on my nerves [18:20] it's minimizing the screen pretty much in a screen [18:21] what do youg uys use in windows [18:21] lol [18:21] win-what? [18:21] Putty / Putty Connection Manager [18:23] I use 'reboot' and 'boot> bsd.rd' from windows to shatter windows into a free os .. [18:24] putty, i connect to 30 servers at once :/ [18:25] connection manager helps with that...30 might be a stretch hehehe [18:25] Windows handle 30 instances of anything?? [18:30] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [18:32] heh [18:32] that's why securecrt does tabs [18:33] connection manager has tabs but isn't quite as tab-friendly as securecrt [18:33] it's good for about 5 servers...many more and you go crazy hunting tabs [18:37] *** visinin has joined #arpnetworks [18:39] hmm [18:39] i dunno, securecrt is setting my termcap or whatever it is very small after i screen [18:39] even if i exit the screen [18:39] but if i open it back up in putty it's the whole window [18:44] well [18:45] it only does it in freebsd, not linux [19:09] windows? huh? [19:09] I confess. I am running a windows client somewhere here. [19:13] but spend much of my day in dwm running on a FreeBSD box. Sometimes connect to that via XMing running on a XP box. Works surprisingly well. [19:33] *** heavysixer has quit IRC () [19:36] up_the_irons, who is your cc merchant [19:36] windows done rule for desktop use [19:36] games and stuffs [19:44] up_the_irons: is there an internal ntp server we can use instead of pool.ntp.org? [19:46] *** baklava has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [20:46] i think i've used an entire 2 mb on my VPS for months [20:46] 2 months [20:46] 2 megs of transfer, not megabits. [20:53] jeev: how can we tell the amount we have used? [20:54] email support and ask for usage graphs [20:54] ah :D [20:54] i haven't even requested it but i've still yhet to find something to do with my vps [20:54] I don't want to bug support for that. [20:55] jeev: irc client for me, and going to be my dev server [20:55] ahh cool [20:55] what you codd [20:55] code [20:56] web development (Perl/catalyst) still learning. [20:56] ah [20:57] jeev: you were asking about what language to learn recently right? [21:01] yea [21:03] you give anything a try yet? [21:04] i'm understanding PHP better [21:04] you have to remember i diagnosed myself with adhd [21:04] i have a nasty focusing disability [21:04] so im trying to fight through it, ive been succesful my entire life, made a lot of money but [21:04] i can't call myself anything at computers unless if i can code [21:07] cool, just practice and you will come [21:09] s/you/it/ [21:09] yea [21:10] what's more important for me to understand is CSS i think and HTML [21:10] before i get into PHP [21:10] cause PHP seems sort of easy with all the examples [21:10] the difficult part for me is getting the look of it [21:10] css/jquery/html [21:11] yea [21:11] jeev: yeah CSS can do some crazy stuff. [21:12] learning man [21:13] css zengarden is a fun site to look at. [21:13] I haven't looked at it for awhile. [21:14] jeev: are you reading any books on xhtml/css? [21:14] ahh [21:14] no man i can't read books, are you kidding me [21:15] cool site, dont like the designs but great examples [21:17] jeev: you can change the design, some of them are very very nice. [21:17] yea [21:17] my problem right now is [21:17] formatting it properly, it's giving me a headache [21:17] jeev: like ie/firefox/*? [21:18] eh [21:18] i dont think that's it [21:18] jeev: this is on of my favorites http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=189/189.css scroll the page :) [21:19] for example: http://git.kernel.org/?p=virt/kvm/qemu-kvm.git;a=summary [21:19] securecrt is awesome. [21:19] obsidieth, not 6.5! [21:19] dj_goku, see how everything is formatted? time, name and text? [21:19] i can't get that to work for me. i took the stylesheet to play with [21:20] the situation is that the left text for me is a name, then on the right side it's a drop down, so it doesn't come down straight in rows [21:20] i use some ancient portable version [21:20] at least i did. [21:20] jeev: I am lost I don't see a time/name text. [21:21] sec [21:22] http://imgbin.org/images/831.jpg [21:22] sorry for blurring it ;D [21:22] i want to make it properly separated no matter how short/long text is [21:22] haha no problem. [21:24] so you want the all names to align and all the drop down's to align. [21:25] yea [22:31] dj_goku: no internal ntp server, sorry [22:32] up_the_irons: just didn't want to waste network bandwidth/traffic :D [22:34] dj_goku: hah, hardly uses anything ;) [22:35] up_the_irons: I was looking at the time on my VPS was LIKE WOW, so I set it to my timezone and looked at ntpd.conf and wondered. [22:35] right [22:40] *** dj_goku has quit IRC ("leaving") [22:48] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [22:48] *** d^_^b has quit IRC ("leaving") [22:50] *** d^_^b has joined #arpnetworks [23:46] toddf: why am I finding a way to remove a user from a group in OpenBSD, without simply editing /etc/group, hard to do? [23:46] usermod -G , will only add the group [23:47] how the heck do I remove a user from the group....