#arpnetworks 2009-10-14,Wed

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shafirehi
where are the servers of arpnetworks?
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srouterumour has it they are in underground bunkers in an undisclosed location [12:04]
shafire?? [12:04]
mike-burnsThe most I know is "California". [12:04]
sroutejoking. up_the_irons will answer such questions, I'm merely a client
LA area I believe.
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shafirehow is support to europe? [12:04]
sroutedunno. Really good to Asia/Australia though. [12:05]
shafiredo you have a test ip? [12:05]
srouteMaybe up_the_irons is around to answer...
Here's a test IP from their support pages
http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/ip-address-for-ping-tests
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shafirethx [12:10]
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shafire170ms to europe :( [12:42]
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sroutecan't please everyone! [12:58]
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up_the_ironsfor the record, yes, my servers are in Los Angeles
west coast only; thought about getting some east coast space, but that is blue sky at the moment
samferry: welcome to #arpnetworks, your nick looks new
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up_the_irons wonders how many people idling are logins buried deep within some forgotten screen session [15:24]
samferryup_the_irons, uh
up_the_irons, pretty sure i've been coming here for a while now
up_the_irons, maybe i forgot to join on my last irc session :s
up_the_irons, just reconfigured xchat and my NX server, as well as reinstalling the OS on this box ; probably why i haven't been in here
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up_the_ironssamferry: maybe my mind is toast then... [15:24]
samferryup_the_irons, lol [15:24]
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toddfI am not forgotten, just idling cuz I like to read scrollback for entertainment when bored ;-) [18:18]
up_the_irons'Join us in #arpnetworks, for amusement, when you are bored'
;)
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jeevthe new securecrt is getting on my nerves
it's minimizing the screen pretty much in a screen
what do youg uys use in windows
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up_the_ironslol
win-what?
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Nat_RHPutty / Putty Connection Manager [18:21]
toddfI use 'reboot' and 'boot> bsd.rd' from windows to shatter windows into a free os .. [18:23]
jeevputty, i connect to 30 servers at once :/ [18:24]
Nat_RHconnection manager helps with that...30 might be a stretch hehehe
Windows handle 30 instances of anything??
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jeevheh
that's why securecrt does tabs
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Nat_RHconnection manager has tabs but isn't quite as tab-friendly as securecrt
it's good for about 5 servers...many more and you go crazy hunting tabs
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jeevhmm
i dunno, securecrt is setting my termcap or whatever it is very small after i screen
even if i exit the screen
but if i open it back up in putty it's the whole window
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well
it only does it in freebsd, not linux
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sroutewindows? huh?
I confess. I am running a windows client somewhere here.
but spend much of my day in dwm running on a FreeBSD box. Sometimes connect to that via XMing running on a XP box. Works surprisingly well.
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jeevup_the_irons, who is your cc merchant
windows done rule for desktop use
games and stuffs
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dj_gokuup_the_irons: is there an internal ntp server we can use instead of pool.ntp.org? [19:44]
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jeevi think i've used an entire 2 mb on my VPS for months
2 months
2 megs of transfer, not megabits.
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dj_gokujeev: how can we tell the amount we have used? [20:53]
jeevemail support and ask for usage graphs [20:54]
dj_gokuah :D [20:54]
jeevi haven't even requested it but i've still yhet to find something to do with my vps [20:54]
dj_gokuI don't want to bug support for that.
jeev: irc client for me, and going to be my dev server
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jeevahh cool
what you codd
code
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dj_gokuweb development (Perl/catalyst) still learning. [20:56]
jeevah [20:56]
dj_gokujeev: you were asking about what language to learn recently right? [20:57]
jeevyea [21:01]
dj_gokuyou give anything a try yet? [21:03]
jeevi'm understanding PHP better
you have to remember i diagnosed myself with adhd
i have a nasty focusing disability
so im trying to fight through it, ive been succesful my entire life, made a lot of money but
i can't call myself anything at computers unless if i can code
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dj_gokucool, just practice and you will come
s/you/it/
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jeevyea
what's more important for me to understand is CSS i think and HTML
before i get into PHP
cause PHP seems sort of easy with all the examples
the difficult part for me is getting the look of it
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dj_gokucss/jquery/html [21:10]
jeevyea [21:11]
dj_gokujeev: yeah CSS can do some crazy stuff. [21:11]
jeevlearning man [21:12]
dj_gokucss zengarden is a fun site to look at.
I haven't looked at it for awhile.
jeev: are you reading any books on xhtml/css?
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jeevahh
no man i can't read books, are you kidding me
cool site, dont like the designs but great examples
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dj_gokujeev: you can change the design, some of them are very very nice. [21:17]
jeevyea
my problem right now is
formatting it properly, it's giving me a headache
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dj_gokujeev: like ie/firefox/*? [21:17]
jeeveh
i dont think that's it
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dj_gokujeev: this is on of my favorites http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=189/189.css scroll the page :) [21:18]
jeevfor example: http://git.kernel.org/?p=virt/kvm/qemu-kvm.git;a=summary [21:19]
obsidiethsecurecrt is awesome. [21:19]
jeevobsidieth, not 6.5!
dj_goku, see how everything is formatted? time, name and text?
i can't get that to work for me. i took the stylesheet to play with
the situation is that the left text for me is a name, then on the right side it's a drop down, so it doesn't come down straight in rows
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obsidiethi use some ancient portable version
at least i did.
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dj_gokujeev: I am lost I don't see a time/name text. [21:20]
jeevsec
http://imgbin.org/images/831.jpg

sorry for blurring it ;D
i want to make it properly separated no matter how short/long text is
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dj_gokuhaha no problem.
so you want the all names to align and all the drop down's to align.
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jeevyea [21:25]
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up_the_ironsdj_goku: no internal ntp server, sorry [22:31]
dj_gokuup_the_irons: just didn't want to waste network bandwidth/traffic :D [22:32]
up_the_ironsdj_goku: hah, hardly uses anything ;) [22:34]
dj_gokuup_the_irons: I was looking at the time on my VPS was LIKE WOW, so I set it to my timezone and looked at ntpd.conf and wondered. [22:35]
up_the_ironsright [22:35]
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up_the_ironstoddf: why am I finding a way to remove a user from a group in OpenBSD, without simply editing /etc/group, hard to do?
usermod -G <group> <user>, will only add the group
how the heck do I remove a user from the group....
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