i actually slept (and woke up now), time for some codin'...
I noticed there's an 'arpnetworks maintenance account' on my VPS
What breaks if I remove it?
up_the_irons's cool
Rada: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/vps/what-is-the-maintenance-account-on-my-vps
Rada: and http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/vps/can-i-delete-the-arpnetworks-user-on-my-vps
:)
wow there's a faq? I have to read that
Rada: there was a discussion a few days ago as to whether the FAQ was hard to find, or too complicated, and whether I should move it to the main site ;)
I believe it should be linked to as part of the setup 'here's your passwords now go play' mail
like, before the passwords themselvesesseses
gotcha
i had no clue it existed.
hehe
there's really not much on it actually
been meaning to flesh it out
w00t, got 136.1 on the WHT UnixBench script
I dont even know what that's supposed to mean but nice i guess.
:D
Rada: well, 50 is average I hear
oh
so I more than doubled that
In that case, nice!
I decided I'm going to host nothing on my VPS
More precisely, I've bought nihilism.(dk|be)
hhaha
what.should@nihilism.be
LOL
:D nice
i wonder why my vhost doesnt work on freenode
is that a feature not a bug
don't know much about vhosts...
should work afaik
WHT UnixBench on one of my Linux VMs: http://pastie.org/private/ttqy6gwl75beppwyg5tkqg
I think I have a few machines here at work that can beat your score
Think 16G+ RAM quad-quad-core RAID-10 just-give-us-the-most-expensive-shit-you-can-throw-together muscle 2U IBM/Dell servers.
I ask never to see the prices of the hardware we buy. I need my jaw for chewing food, not wiping floors.
yeah, i'm pretty sure those could beat my score
add to that, the developers here rarely think of multithreading as an option :(
Rada: You should be glad, they're not thinking of multithreading.. Multithreading is a Pandora's Box of deadlocks, race conditions and mem leaks.
:')
I'm not glad because I can manage to load my laptop harder than they can load a server
... using just terminal emulators and doing only stuff i need ...
I mean it's just simple stuff, like working on several datasets at once.
Then why not just launch several processes? If they are completely unrelated, wouldn't that be smarter than creating threads?
bound by disk io, linear access is much faster than random
oh man :±
http://pastie.org/645322
Whew. It's been busy in here!
Pretty well for a Atom 330 @ 1.60GHz imo:
http://pastie.org/private/yryrarwala8bzyf3avxwbw
Rada: you should try the WHT version
Whats a WHT :P
oh that
nerdd: not bad :)
up_the_irons: Nope, it's my tiny server in my wardrobe at home  :)
hah
It was actually kinda cool looking at top and seeing "180 processes: 26 running, 154 sleeping"
What the hell =/ only 482
Rada: lulz.. What a crappy piece of junk :p
Rada: I own nihili.st! We're philoso-domain-twins!
mike-burns: NICE!
ni.hili.st :D
Nah that's owned by one of the OGC guys. Wait, is that one of you?
nope
I haven't figured out what to do with nihili.st. Not even sure if I'll renew it.
:O
gief!
or use it
put a black page at least.
Nothingness is really cool. I think it's gonna get very popular in due time.
Not even sure when it expires; maybe in a month.
Nothingness was popular a year ago. Its time is over.
I guess I totally passed over that fad
Ah it'll come around again.
It always does. Todays consumerism almost guarantees at least a few people to look around and think "wtf am i doing man?"
Well that's minimalism, but yeah.
up_the_irons: The FAQ would be more known if it were in the first 80 chars of the topic.
What it turns into depends on how you're predisposed to interpret it. Anyway, a link to the faq in the /topic would be nice yes-
this is true
http://dougbarton.us/portmaster-proposal.html - I like when developers do this and we all use this software, so I'm just making this known.
time to expire
cd $bed
lata
anyone have a merchant
i need to find someone who deals with online shit
who the merchant i
s
who the best merchants, bulletproof
We use Authenticate.net and Paypal at work.
No complaints.
We use Authorize.net here.
I think mike-burns meant authorize.net :)
SUre did.
authorize.net is a gateway
their merchant goes through another bank
Oh I see.
Then in that case: no idea.
iwant to know who those penis enlargement companies use
those companies are bulletproof
And private.
up_the_irons: around?
yea
because no matter how many times you complain about those tv sales shit
they still keep their accounts and fight back
jeev: I have been wondering about this too; if you figure it out let us know.
for sure
i have a friend in one of those businesses, makes a lot.
i'll ask him when i get a chance
Nice.
up_the_irons: sent an email, let me know
bbl
does vps hosting come with any sort of dns management?
ARP will handle DNS for you, or you can install your own dns daemon and run it yourself
anyone know of FreeDNS does IPv4 reverse DNS management?  I saw it for IPv6 (and got it working), but why can't I find the IPv4 version...
ah ok
bobbyw: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns
s/of/if/
nah, i dont think they do
the ipv6 is great though
Hello ppl
bithash: Evening
howdy bithash
up_the_irons how much do you charge per extra ipv4 ip?
4 bucks of a /29
for*
dbgi2IAm: $4 - 5 usable IPs, $8 - 13 usable IPs (basically, 50 cents per IP, for entire subnet)
ok cool, thanks, im gonna keep that in mind
up_the_irons: get the second email?
ballen: maybe, haven't checked, fighting IPMI :(
fuuun
basically was asking
trading down to 50GB bandwidth for how much disk space
i.e. $5 = host much disk space
up_the_irons are you around?
ballen: i'm around, now f*cking w/ java :(  i got your email, but i kinda don't understand the question; i know you're trying to trade one for the other; i guess i don't have a quick answer.  I never priced disk space / bandwidth individually, more like a bundle.  just tell me what price point you wanna  hit, and i'll tell u what i can give for that
so for three VMs I need to keep it under 100
I need a minimum of 70GB of HD on two of them
the smaller being the default with 50GB of bandwidth
the third smaller one I mean
ballen: so the third smaller one being 1GB and 40GB?
right
ballen: so we're looking at 70+70+40 = 180GB in total?  do you need the 40G on the third or can you go smaller?
umm 40 is about as low as I could go, why is there a price point I'm just above?
ballen: no, just that it is a lot of disk space for 100
before, it was $40 for a 100GB no?
i'll make it work, just let me think about it some
yeah, $40 for 100gb
ok dokie. Also with the first quote, how much storage would I need to take off to make it $35
um
sorry for all the different custimizations
no problem, that's why i'm here :)
To Meet Your Needs(tm)
heh
if you take off 20G, i can make the $40 -> $35
k
with the first quote, 40 +40 + 25= 105, which is close to 100, and gives you more than your minimum disk
so shave off some disk, we can go below 100
cool
I don't know how hard that cost is
as far as if I can go over 100
so since I likely will not be me ordering this
brb leg cramp , gah!
is there a way to show the ordering person the price we're going to spending on the order page
also do you have options to buy N months at a time
ballen: i don't have a way to change the order page w/ custom quotes, but I can just send you a regular quote in PDF (what I do for my colo / bandwidth quotes)
hmmm
ballen: you can buy 6 months or 12 months at a time
would it be kosher to pick a matching cost plan on the order page
ballen: and have me modify it later with what we discussed?
I just have a feeling if procurement has to plan an order they're going to shit a fit if the reciept doesn't have the right price on it
yea
s/plan/place
yea, and match the pdf quote afterwards
the receipt will have whatever price we agree upon anyway; the order form doesn't charge the card
ah
ok
does the order form require selecting a VPS?
just thinking I could have them put the quote # in Additional
with the cost
that's a good idea
ballen: you can fill out a "generic" order form by simply doing: http://arpnetworks.com/order
see, there's nothing there :)
under "Additional", any notes can be placed
that'll do nicly
nicely
awesome, ok tomorrow I'll let you know what exactly we're getting
ballen: I'll make a quote, just send me the Admin Contact and Billing Contact (can be the same)
uhhh
good question
ballen: it's just to fill out the form, i guess it doesn't matter; put yourself if you like :)
just a quote
heh ok
just tell me tomorrow exactly what you decide on and i'll put it all together
k will do, thanks man
no prob!
guessing the DRBD setup would cost more for the extra storage?
ballen: no, it just replaces the "nightly backup" (your extra volume for backups)
we have nightly backups?
ballen: i did at one point, but it required a client script (inside VM).  I want to do backups w/ DRBD instead
ah right on
b/c then it does not require the client to do anything
it's not a backup in the sense "crap I deleted my /etc/passwd, where can I find yesterday's version?"; more like, "if the host box dies, can I fire up the VM on a different box", and the answer to that would be yes
bitchin
yea I can take care of normal backups
yeah, i figure most people can
i would still like to find a way to do lightweight incremental backups of block devices
since the bandwidth between sites is literally almost what I have locally its no prob
between sites?
LANL => You
ah ok
I'll just have to watch my bandwidth on your side
yeah
ordered my coffee grinder today
now just need to decide on the esspresso machine
espresso
nice!
wonder how much difference the grinder will make using my $150 piece of a espresso machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS9Bvw0L7VE