| ↑back Search ←Prev date Next date→ Show only urls | (Click on time to select a line by its url) |
| Who | What | When |
|---|---|---|
| *** | nerdd_ has joined #arpnetworks | [00:44] |
| nerdd has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.)
nerdd_ is now known as nerdd visinin has quit IRC ("sleep") | [00:58] | |
| ..... (idle for 21mn) | ||
| baklava has quit IRC ("Game Over. Please insert another token into the ring.") | [01:22] | |
| ..... (idle for 22mn) | ||
| baklava has joined #arpnetworks | [01:44] | |
| .................... (idle for 1h35mn) | ||
| nerdd_ has joined #arpnetworks | [03:19] | |
| nerdd has quit IRC (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | [03:26] | |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons yawns
i actually slept (and woke up now), time for some codin'... | [03:37] |
| *** | baklava has quit IRC (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
jester1 has quit IRC (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) nuke has quit IRC (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) baklava has joined #arpnetworks jester1 has joined #arpnetworks nuke has joined #arpnetworks | [03:46] |
| ..... (idle for 20mn) | ||
| nerdd_ is now known as nerdd | [04:06] | |
| .... (idle for 17mn) | ||
| Rada | I noticed there's an 'arpnetworks maintenance account' on my VPS
What breaks if I remove it? | [04:23] |
| obsidieth | up_the_irons's cool | [04:24] |
| up_the_irons | Rada: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/vps/what-is-the-maintenance-account-on-my-vps
Rada: and http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/vps/can-i-delete-the-arpnetworks-user-on-my-vps :) | [04:27] |
| Rada | wow there's a faq? I have to read that | [04:29] |
| up_the_irons | Rada: there was a discussion a few days ago as to whether the FAQ was hard to find, or too complicated, and whether I should move it to the main site ;) | [04:29] |
| Rada | I believe it should be linked to as part of the setup 'here's your passwords now go play' mail
like, before the passwords themselvesesseses | [04:30] |
| up_the_irons | gotcha | [04:32] |
| *** | Thorgrimr has quit IRC ("leaving") | [04:45] |
| .... (idle for 15mn) | ||
| obsidieth | i had no clue it existed. | [05:00] |
| up_the_irons | hehe
there's really not much on it actually been meaning to flesh it out | [05:03] |
| w00t, got 136.1 on the WHT UnixBench script | [05:11] | |
| Rada | I dont even know what that's supposed to mean but nice i guess.
:D | [05:19] |
| *** | Thorgrimr has joined #arpnetworks | [05:20] |
| up_the_irons | Rada: well, 50 is average I hear | [05:20] |
| Rada | oh | [05:20] |
| up_the_irons | so I more than doubled that | [05:20] |
| Rada | In that case, nice!
I decided I'm going to host nothing on my VPS More precisely, I've bought nihilism.(dk|be) | [05:20] |
| up_the_irons | hhaha | [05:22] |
| Rada | what.should@nihilism.be | [05:23] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [05:24] |
| *** | timburke has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | [05:26] |
| obsidieth | :D nice
i wonder why my vhost doesnt work on freenode is that a feature not a bug | [05:29] |
| up_the_irons | don't know much about vhosts...
should work afaik WHT UnixBench on one of my Linux VMs: http://pastie.org/private/ttqy6gwl75beppwyg5tkqg | [05:36] |
| Rada | I think I have a few machines here at work that can beat your score
Think 16G+ RAM quad-quad-core RAID-10 just-give-us-the-most-expensive-shit-you-can-throw-together muscle 2U IBM/Dell servers. I ask never to see the prices of the hardware we buy. I need my jaw for chewing food, not wiping floors. | [05:44] |
| up_the_irons | yeah, i'm pretty sure those could beat my score | [05:52] |
| Rada | add to that, the developers here rarely think of multithreading as an option :( | [05:53] |
| nerdd | Rada: You should be glad, they're not thinking of multithreading.. Multithreading is a Pandora's Box of deadlocks, race conditions and mem leaks. | [05:55] |
| Rada | :')
I'm not glad because I can manage to load my laptop harder than they can load a server ... using just terminal emulators and doing only stuff i need ... | [05:56] |
| nerdd | nerdd doesn't implement multithreading himself, because he knows he's too stupid to do it right :) | [05:57] |
| Rada | I mean it's just simple stuff, like working on several datasets at once. | [05:57] |
| nerdd | Then why not just launch several processes? If they are completely unrelated, wouldn't that be smarter than creating threads? | [05:59] |
| Rada | bound by disk io, linear access is much faster than random | [06:12] |
| *** | heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks | [06:16] |
| ..... (idle for 24mn) | ||
| Rada | oh man :±
http://pastie.org/645322 | [06:40] |
| mhoran | Whew. It's been busy in here! | [06:45] |
| nerdd | Pretty well for a Atom 330 @ 1.60GHz imo:
http://pastie.org/private/yryrarwala8bzyf3avxwbw | [06:49] |
| up_the_irons | Rada: you should try the WHT version | [06:49] |
| Rada | Whats a WHT :P
oh that | [06:49] |
| up_the_irons | nerdd: not bad :) | [06:49] |
| nerdd | up_the_irons: Nope, it's my tiny server in my wardrobe at home :) | [06:50] |
| up_the_irons | hah | [06:51] |
| nerdd | It was actually kinda cool looking at top and seeing "180 processes: 26 running, 154 sleeping" | [06:56] |
| Rada | What the hell =/ only 482 | [07:03] |
| nerdd | Rada: lulz.. What a crappy piece of junk :p | [07:04] |
| mike-burns | Rada: I own nihili.st! We're philoso-domain-twins! | [07:04] |
| Rada | mike-burns: NICE! | [07:05] |
| ni.hili.st :D | [07:11] | |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons slaps himself | [07:11] |
| mike-burns | Nah that's owned by one of the OGC guys. Wait, is that one of you? | [07:11] |
| Rada | nope | [07:12] |
| mike-burns | I haven't figured out what to do with nihili.st. Not even sure if I'll renew it. | [07:12] |
| Rada | :O
gief! or use it put a black page at least. Nothingness is really cool. I think it's gonna get very popular in due time. | [07:12] |
| mike-burns | Not even sure when it expires; maybe in a month.
Nothingness was popular a year ago. Its time is over. | [07:13] |
| Rada | I guess I totally passed over that fad | [07:14] |
| mike-burns | Ah it'll come around again. | [07:14] |
| Rada | It always does. Todays consumerism almost guarantees at least a few people to look around and think "wtf am i doing man?" | [07:14] |
| mike-burns | Well that's minimalism, but yeah.
up_the_irons: The FAQ would be more known if it were in the first 80 chars of the topic. | [07:15] |
| Rada | What it turns into depends on how you're predisposed to interpret it. Anyway, a link to the faq in the /topic would be nice yes- | [07:16] |
| up_the_irons | this is true | [07:16] |
| mike-burns | http://dougbarton.us/portmaster-proposal.html - I like when developers do this and we all use this software, so I'm just making this known. | [07:16] |
| up_the_irons | time to expire
cd $bed | [07:19] |
| obsidieth | lata | [07:24] |
| *** | vtoms has joined #arpnetworks | [07:26] |
| .................... (idle for 1h35mn) | ||
| visinin has joined #arpnetworks | [09:01] | |
| ........................................... (idle for 3h32mn) | ||
| jeev | anyone have a merchant
i need to find someone who deals with online shit who the merchant i s who the best merchants, bulletproof | [12:33] |
| mike-burns | We use Authenticate.net and Paypal at work.
No complaints. | [12:43] |
| mhoran | We use Authorize.net here.
I think mike-burns meant authorize.net :) | [12:45] |
| mike-burns | SUre did. | [12:46] |
| ............. (idle for 1h1mn) | ||
| jeev | authorize.net is a gateway
their merchant goes through another bank | [13:47] |
| mike-burns | Oh I see.
Then in that case: no idea. | [13:48] |
| jeev | iwant to know who those penis enlargement companies use | [13:48] |
| *** | ballen has joined #arpnetworks | [13:48] |
| jeev | those companies are bulletproof | [13:48] |
| mike-burns | And private. | [13:48] |
| ballen | up_the_irons: around? | [13:48] |
| jeev | yea
because no matter how many times you complain about those tv sales shit they still keep their accounts and fight back | [13:49] |
| mike-burns | jeev: I have been wondering about this too; if you figure it out let us know. | [13:49] |
| jeev | for sure
i have a friend in one of those businesses, makes a lot. i'll ask him when i get a chance | [13:49] |
| mike-burns | Nice. | [13:50] |
| ballen | up_the_irons: sent an email, let me know
bbl | [14:04] |
| *** | ballen has quit IRC () | [14:04] |
| .......... (idle for 47mn) | ||
| vtoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.") | [14:51] | |
| .... (idle for 15mn) | ||
| nerdd has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) | [15:06] | |
| timburke has joined #arpnetworks | [15:11] | |
| heavysixer has quit IRC () | [15:17] | |
| heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks | [15:22] | |
| .......... (idle for 45mn) | ||
| nerdd has joined #arpnetworks
bobbyw has joined #arpnetworks | [16:07] | |
| bobbyw | does vps hosting come with any sort of dns management? | [16:09] |
| Thorgrimr | ARP will handle DNS for you, or you can install your own dns daemon and run it yourself | [16:10] |
| up_the_irons | anyone know of FreeDNS does IPv4 reverse DNS management? I saw it for IPv6 (and got it working), but why can't I find the IPv4 version... | [16:15] |
| bobbyw | ah ok | [16:15] |
| up_the_irons | bobbyw: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns
s/of/if/ | [16:15] |
| ............. (idle for 1h3mn) | ||
| *** | nerdd has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.)
nerdd has joined #arpnetworks | [17:20] |
| dj_goku has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) | [17:30] | |
| ..... (idle for 23mn) | ||
| obsidieth | nah, i dont think they do
the ipv6 is great though | [17:53] |
| *** | dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks | [17:56] |
| ballen has joined #arpnetworks
bithash has joined #arpnetworks | [18:09] | |
| bithash | Hello ppl | [18:10] |
| Nat_UB | bithash: Evening | [18:11] |
| Thorgrimr | howdy bithash | [18:21] |
| dbgi2IAm | up_the_irons how much do you charge per extra ipv4 ip? | [18:29] |
| *** | bobbyw has quit IRC () | [18:30] |
| ballen | 4 bucks of a /29
for* | [18:30] |
| up_the_irons | dbgi2IAm: $4 - 5 usable IPs, $8 - 13 usable IPs (basically, 50 cents per IP, for entire subnet) | [18:30] |
| dbgi2IAm | ok cool, thanks, im gonna keep that in mind | [18:32] |
| ballen | up_the_irons: get the second email? | [18:33] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: maybe, haven't checked, fighting IPMI :( | [18:33] |
| ballen | fuuun
basically was asking trading down to 50GB bandwidth for how much disk space i.e. $5 = host much disk space | [18:33] |
| ......... (idle for 43mn) | ||
| *** | vtoms has joined #arpnetworks | [19:17] |
| .... (idle for 17mn) | ||
| bobbyw has joined #arpnetworks
ballen is now known as ballen|away | [19:34] | |
| bithash | up_the_irons are you around? | [19:39] |
| *** | ballen|away is now known as ballen | [19:41] |
| vtoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.") | [19:47] | |
| bithash has left | [19:52] | |
| heavysixer has quit IRC () | [19:57] | |
| .... (idle for 16mn) | ||
| ballen is now known as ballen|away | [20:13] | |
| ballen|away is now known as ballen
bobbyw has quit IRC () | [20:20] | |
| up_the_irons | ballen: i'm around, now f*cking w/ java :( i got your email, but i kinda don't understand the question; i know you're trying to trade one for the other; i guess i don't have a quick answer. I never priced disk space / bandwidth individually, more like a bundle. just tell me what price point you wanna hit, and i'll tell u what i can give for that | [20:24] |
| ballen | so for three VMs I need to keep it under 100
I need a minimum of 70GB of HD on two of them the smaller being the default with 50GB of bandwidth the third smaller one I mean | [20:25] |
| *** | bobbyw has joined #arpnetworks
bobbyw has quit IRC (Client Quit) | [20:26] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: so the third smaller one being 1GB and 40GB? | [20:31] |
| ballen | right | [20:31] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: so we're looking at 70+70+40 = 180GB in total? do you need the 40G on the third or can you go smaller? | [20:33] |
| ballen | umm 40 is about as low as I could go, why is there a price point I'm just above? | [20:34] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: no, just that it is a lot of disk space for 100 | [20:35] |
| ballen | before, it was $40 for a 100GB no? | [20:36] |
| up_the_irons | i'll make it work, just let me think about it some
yeah, $40 for 100gb | [20:36] |
| ballen | ok dokie. Also with the first quote, how much storage would I need to take off to make it $35 | [20:37] |
| up_the_irons | um | [20:39] |
| ballen | sorry for all the different custimizations | [20:39] |
| up_the_irons | no problem, that's why i'm here :)
To Meet Your Needs(tm) | [20:39] |
| ballen | heh | [20:39] |
| up_the_irons | if you take off 20G, i can make the $40 -> $35 | [20:41] |
| ballen | k | [20:41] |
| up_the_irons | with the first quote, 40 +40 + 25= 105, which is close to 100, and gives you more than your minimum disk
so shave off some disk, we can go below 100 | [20:42] |
| ballen | cool
I don't know how hard that cost is as far as if I can go over 100 so since I likely will not be me ordering this | [20:42] |
| up_the_irons | brb leg cramp , gah! | [20:44] |
| ballen | is there a way to show the ordering person the price we're going to spending on the order page
also do you have options to buy N months at a time | [20:44] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: i don't have a way to change the order page w/ custom quotes, but I can just send you a regular quote in PDF (what I do for my colo / bandwidth quotes) | [20:53] |
| ballen | hmmm | [20:53] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: you can buy 6 months or 12 months at a time | [20:53] |
| ballen | would it be kosher to pick a matching cost plan on the order page | [20:55] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: and have me modify it later with what we discussed? | [20:56] |
| ballen | I just have a feeling if procurement has to plan an order they're going to shit a fit if the reciept doesn't have the right price on it
yea s/plan/place yea, and match the pdf quote afterwards | [20:56] |
| up_the_irons | the receipt will have whatever price we agree upon anyway; the order form doesn't charge the card | [20:56] |
| ballen | ah
ok does the order form require selecting a VPS? just thinking I could have them put the quote # in Additional with the cost | [20:58] |
| up_the_irons | that's a good idea
ballen: you can fill out a "generic" order form by simply doing: http://arpnetworks.com/order see, there's nothing there :) under "Additional", any notes can be placed | [20:59] |
| ballen | that'll do nicly
nicely awesome, ok tomorrow I'll let you know what exactly we're getting | [21:00] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: I'll make a quote, just send me the Admin Contact and Billing Contact (can be the same) | [21:00] |
| ballen | uhhh
good question | [21:01] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: it's just to fill out the form, i guess it doesn't matter; put yourself if you like :)
just a quote | [21:01] |
| ballen | heh ok | [21:01] |
| up_the_irons | just tell me tomorrow exactly what you decide on and i'll put it all together | [21:02] |
| ballen | k will do, thanks man | [21:02] |
| up_the_irons | no prob! | [21:03] |
| ballen | guessing the DRBD setup would cost more for the extra storage? | [21:04] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: no, it just replaces the "nightly backup" (your extra volume for backups) | [21:05] |
| ballen | we have nightly backups? | [21:06] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: i did at one point, but it required a client script (inside VM). I want to do backups w/ DRBD instead | [21:07] |
| ballen | ah right on | [21:08] |
| up_the_irons | b/c then it does not require the client to do anything
it's not a backup in the sense "crap I deleted my /etc/passwd, where can I find yesterday's version?"; more like, "if the host box dies, can I fire up the VM on a different box", and the answer to that would be yes | [21:08] |
| ballen | bitchin
yea I can take care of normal backups | [21:09] |
| up_the_irons | yeah, i figure most people can
i would still like to find a way to do lightweight incremental backups of block devices | [21:10] |
| ballen | since the bandwidth between sites is literally almost what I have locally its no prob | [21:10] |
| up_the_irons | between sites? | [21:11] |
| ballen | LANL => You | [21:11] |
| up_the_irons | ah ok | [21:11] |
| ballen | I'll just have to watch my bandwidth on your side | [21:11] |
| up_the_irons | yeah | [21:12] |
| ballen | ordered my coffee grinder today
now just need to decide on the esspresso machine espresso | [21:13] |
| up_the_irons | nice! | [21:14] |
| ballen | wonder how much difference the grinder will make using my $150 piece of a espresso machine | [21:15] |
| *** | bithash has joined #arpnetworks | [21:16] |
| jester1 has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
jester1 has joined #arpnetworks | [21:26] | |
| Nat_UB has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) | [21:38] | |
| Nat_UB has joined #arpnetworks | [21:44] | |
| ....... (idle for 31mn) | ||
| bithash has left | [22:15] | |
| jeev | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS9Bvw0L7VE | [22:28] |
| ..... (idle for 21mn) | ||
| *** | Nat_UB has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection)
Nat_UB has joined #arpnetworks | [22:49] |
| ...... (idle for 28mn) | ||
| ballen is now known as ballen|away | [23:17] | |
| ↑back Search ←Prev date Next date→ Show only urls | (Click on time to select a line by its url) |