#arpnetworks 2009-10-01,Thu

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ballennice
yea when we testin those suckers out
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up_the_ironsdbgi: if it works [00:02]
dbgikk [00:03]
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up_the_ironsam i srsly this retarded.. why can't I make single quote (') become an escaped single quote (')
irb(main):019:0> "foo's".tr("'", "'")
=> "foo's"
irb(main):020:0> "foo's".tr("'", "\'")
=> "foo's"
irb(main):021:0> "foo's".tr("'", "\'")
=> "foo's"
irb(main):022:0> "foo's".tr("'", "\\'")
=> "foo\s"
irb(main):023:0> "foo's".tr("'", "\\'")
=> "foo\s"
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ballen"'".tr("'", "'")
should be fine
your first one
irb doesn't show char's escaped
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up_the_ironsoh [00:30]
ballenit just shows them [00:30]
up_the_ironsup_the_irons boggles [00:30]
ballenirb(main):006:0> '''
=> "'"
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up_the_ironslol
well, it doesn't show it in my output either (in my Rails view); so guess i gotta find another way, or say f*ck it
it's not so important if it is gonna be this whiny about it
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ballenwhy does it need to escaped? [00:32]
up_the_ironsb/c I want:
'Garry's Company' -> 'Garry's Company'
so I can copy & paste onto command line
but I could just double quote it
and be done with it
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ballenthat is very silly [00:34]
up_the_ironsuntil you've had to type the same thing 50 times
but with different names
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ballenyea one sec I'll figure ito ut [00:35]
up_the_ironsit's not all that important really, cuz I can double quote it and be on my way [00:36]
ballenmmk
hah: "foo's".sub(/(')/,'\ 1').tr(" ", "")
sub and tr won't do it
alone
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up_the_ironsomfg [00:41]
ballenand if you take that space out
in the sub
the 1 turns into a literal 1
for whatever fucking reason
do something like: "foo's".sub(/(')/,'\#1').tr("#", "")
so you can not remove spaces
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up_the_ironsthat's insane [00:44]
ballenheh [00:45]
up_the_ironsf*ck
F*CK
i guess this is a problem i want to have
but
i just spent the last 30 minutes writing code that I found I already wrote
6 months ago
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ballenhah [00:49]
up_the_ironsall nice and tested too
yep, works like a charm
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ballenhahaha [00:51]
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RadaHappy new customer here :) [02:08]
up_the_ironsRada!
Rada: welcome to #arpnetworks :)
Rada: what kinds of things are you doing with your new VM?
i always wonder what my boxes are up to...
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ballenhacking some gibsons [02:18]
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up_the_ironswith vim's ctrl-p completion, I feel like half my coding is just hitting <ctrl-p> [02:39]
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Radaup_the_irons: I'm probably gonna use it for irssi in a screen, a lot of web serving, a little unrealircd and some mail
And thanks :)
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up_the_ironsRada: nice :) [02:56]
RadaMy current server got shut down because of political issues at work =/
To think I had free bandwith and electricity all this time.
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up_the_ironshehe [03:00]
Radagod... i love the way you just give a good generic install. [03:04]
up_the_irons:)
i'm quite a minimalist myself
Rada: how'd you find out about my services anyway? I noticed 2 orders from DK yesterday, within an hour, was wondering if I got on some danish forum or something...
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RadaOh it's my friend whom I hosted on my server at work, he found you somehow and told me he ordered from you
I'm pretty sure he found you via google.
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up_the_ironsRada: ah ok [03:09]
Radabut yeah, serious quality BSD hosting is rare these days. [03:10]
up_the_ironsI aim to change that [03:10]
Rada:) [03:10]
up_the_ironsalthough I do hear RootBSD and JohnCompanies come up a lot, and people have good things to say
but i guess that *is* only 2 other companies
not like the thousands of Linux VPS providers out there ;)
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Radaexactly
rootbsd is a lot more pricey than your plan
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up_the_ironsyeah they're expensive
kinda like Slicehost
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RadaYou know what, after actually looking at the alternatives out there I'm happy my friend told me about arpnetworks. He really did his research. [03:13]
up_the_ironsyeah, apparently :) cuz I don't do any paid advertising
although a search for "FreeBSD VPS" on google brings me at #4 now
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RadaI'd aim to be #1 at something more generic like "freebsd hosting" [03:15]
up_the_ironsi'm quite impressed i actually achieved that; i must know something about SEO, but i really don't
yeah, that'd be a good one to get
man, i'm nowhere for that keyword ;)
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RadaWhat kind of people buy ip transit? [03:35]
up_the_ironsRada: web hosting companies, colo companies, big gaming companies, lots and lots others [03:37]
Radaoh
So they just buy... bandwith? like how? Do you relay their traffic then?
oh and my friend Rasmus hasn't heard anything about his vps yet
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up_the_ironsRada: they just buy bandwidth, yeah. They order a cross connect to me (copper or fiber), and I light up the port. Most will request a large block of IPs also, and I'll assign those as downstream [03:39]
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Radaoh, nice. [03:40]
up_the_ironsRada: yeah I know about Rasmus, I'm behind. is he @nerdd on twitter?
nerdd!
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Rada:D [03:40]
nerddYup [03:40]
up_the_ironsspeak of the devil
nerdd: your VPS is coming in like 30 minutes or less
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nerddRada tipped me about this channel ;)
up_the_irons: Uh, nice!
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Radanerdd: In english it's "Oh" not "Uh", [03:41]
up_the_ironsLOL [03:42]
Radaeven the sounds we make depend on culture and language. [03:42]
nerddRada: Tss.. A minor error, wouldn't you say? I'm sure the meaning translated well enough [03:43]
Radauh, yeah...
:D
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up_the_ironsnerdd: done, just sent you the welcome package [04:13]
nerddup_the_irons: Thanks, I've just read the mail :) [04:15]
up_the_irons:) [04:16]
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mike-burnsup_the_irons: Unless you write a lot of Makefiles, I recommend this: imap <Tab> ^P
(Also, I'm sure you know about this already: ^N, ^X^L, and using ^L in incremental search mode.)
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up_the_ironsmike-burns: nah, I actually need real tabs; so gotta keep the tab key
mike-burns: i've done some work with ^X^<other> , but haven't got in the habit of using it much
mike-burns: regarding ^X^L, I usually just use '*'
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jeevi wish i could code man
damnit
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[20:12]
bithashHello people [20:15]
Just wondering if I should know anything about policies procedures at arpnetworks, I just got myself a new account
same deal as the topic for the day
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mike-burnsWhat kind of policies? [20:21]
bithashI am not really sure..anything that stands out?
This also happens to be my first hosting account of any sort..
so pardon my ignorance in general
[20:23]
mike-burnsAside from anything that you've seen in the emails from Garry (which wasn't much), I've just been following a "don't be a dick" philosophy with regards to what I use my account for.
But I don't know of anything formal.
up_the_irons will do RDNS for you, and in general is super-helpful for anything you need him to do.
[20:24]
bithashfair enough :) Yeah I am not into any spamming or anything..just did not want on start on the wrong foot
ah ok
[20:25]
mike-burnsYeah just don't do something illegal.
And if you do, make sure to split the profits with up_the_irons .
[20:26]
bithashlol
aight..noted
So i see that the forward dns to the server would be <servername>.cust.arpnetworks.com ?
[20:26]
mike-burnsYou can run your own DNS if you want something custom. [20:28]
bithashcool
and finally, is the irc channel an acceptable medium for any support requests?
not in the main channel of course
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mike-burnsI don't know how up_the_irons feels about it, but we do all make requests here (or via private message) and he takes care of them.
I suspect he's okay with this, until he gets too many customers.
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bithashvery nice. yep, I won't be a bother, just curious.
Thanks for coming forward mike-burns :) I really do appreciate it.
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sroutesroute thinks "dont be a dick" is a good philosophy [20:58]
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sroutebithash do you have some server admin experience? [21:03]
bithashYes, I do manage a few servers
apache, mysql heavy
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srouteah good. chances are then you won't have many requests... you get a VPS and in this case they really do look like a machine - if you care to compile and install your own kernel, go for it. Not like OpenVZ.
Other than working with Garry while he was doing some beta testing on a new platform I can't say that I've had a need for a support request... the thing just keeps on ticking. Boring. I like boring.
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bithashYeah I got the VPS which is the topic of discussion today .. working on configuring it at the moment, I like the download speeds already :) [21:07]
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up_the_ironshey bithash, welcome to #arpnetworks
bithash: you can ask for support in here, but usually I'll just refer you to support@arpnetworks.com if I'm busy
and yeah, "don't be a dick" is a great policy, I should replace my AUP page with <div class='web-two-point-oh'>Don't Be A Dick</div>
;)
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bithashthanks up_the_irons. :) [23:00]
up_the_ironsno problem [23:00]
visinindiv.web-two-point-oh { shininess: off-the-hook; beta: hell-yeah; } [23:00]
up_the_ironsbithash: where you hear about my services btw?
visinin: haha nice
[23:00]
bithashyeah I just wanted a better understanding abt arpnetworks
I saw a few forum posts on webhostingtalk.com which recommended you guys
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up_the_ironssroute: I'm glad you're bored; i'm having more fun than you ;)
bithash: ah cool
yeah that blew up yesterday, had like 2 popular threads mention me
[23:02]
bithashOh, so its just you?
I mean, are there more people involved?
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up_the_ironsjust me [23:03]
bithashawsome [23:04]
up_the_ironsi have some other guys help me when needed, but for the most part it is just me [23:04]
bithashgotcha [23:04]
up_the_ironssroute: I've been wondering, since you run SMP and APIC is enabled on your VM, does "date; sleep 1; date" produce the correct output? (1 second) [23:06]
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bithashup_the_walls, so how do I use the vnc service for console view?
heh..sorry up_the_irons I meant ..
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up_the_ironsbithash: get a VNC client and give it the IP and password listed
bithash: there is also another way to get console view, in an up-and-coming new feature, where you SSH into a console server and can see your VM; think of it like serial-over-IP :) Email support@arpnetworks.com your SSH pub key if you want to try it out
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bithashslick
so with method 1, I am not sure if I follow the "password listed", is it the one that I got with the welcome email?
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up_the_ironsbithash: oh, thought you saw -- log into the portal and click on your "Services", you'll then see the VNC info [23:29]
bithashup_the_irons: thanks, yes I got it now:) [23:32]
up_the_ironsbithash: :) [23:32]
bithashmissed the vnc section earlier [23:32]
up_the_ironsno problem [23:32]
bithashIs the VNC server common to all vps boxes? [23:42]
up_the_ironsbithash: what do you mean? [23:43]
bithashnvm. got it :) [23:44]
up_the_ironsit's specific to the VPS host you're on. So if your VM moves to a different host, the VNC IP will change [23:44]
bithashsorry abt that [23:44]
up_the_ironsno worries [23:44]
bithashdifferent host?
physical machine you mean ..?
[23:44]
up_the_ironsyeah, physical machine [23:44]
bithashaight
do you add the forward dns entry for a new vps hostname by default?
[23:44]
up_the_ironsbithash: yeah i do [23:54]
bithashhmm..mine did not seem to propagate yet
can you please double check?
lmk if you need the hostname :)
I can wait if its just a propagation delay
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up_the_ironsworks for me [23:57]
bithashits rig [23:58]
up_the_ironsbithash: you don't have to use that hostname either, most people change it [23:58]
bithashthe server hostname is fine
just the dns
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up_the_ironsbithash: ooh right, you requested a special hostname [23:58]
bithash:) [23:58]
up_the_ironsbithash: what would you like it to be, "rig.cust.arpnetworks.com" ?
you don't have to use my domain, most people find it boring anyway ;)
[23:59]
bithashyeah , that would be just fine :) [23:59]

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