yeah, i always buy from a trusted vendor if I do Cisco on ebay
how does one make a "fake" Cisco switch anyway?  I've always wondered....
with a soldiering iron?
ever see these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833150065&cm_re=Cisco_48-_-33-150-065-_-Product
ballen: never seen 'em
ahh FYI anything labeled smalled business from Cisco is Linksys
http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/solutions/small_business/products/routers_switches/index.html?POSITION=LINK&COUNTRY_SITE=us&CAMPAIGN=SMB+Samba&CREATIVE=ESCAPE+HATCH&TIS=__0240_&REFERRING_SITE=CISCO.COM+SWITCHES
if you want, my best friend works at Cisco, I'll ask him if those switches are any good
ballen: cool
likely they are crap
haha
so back to my problem of indexes and such
on post creation
I could populate a set that exists for each friend which the id of the new post
obviously this is crap load of sets
and creating a new post will slow down as number of friends increase
i suddenly have new found respect for Facebook, et. al
they use mysql as a last stop, with crap loads of memcache in front of it though
ballen: have you looked at cassandra?
yea
it's pretty wicked fast
indeed, and distributed where Redis is not
Although you can make redis distributed by some app side code
yeah
its written in java though
and I have somewhat of a religious issue of putting JDK on FreeBSD
yeah, unfortunately, all the distributed + key/value + mapreduce + ball of wax, things are Java
yea
this will change
damn people running linux
would be nice to at least see a python implementation at some point, then maybe C
python would be to slow
C would be good
hence Redis
surely not slower than java!
you blasphemer
hah, Java is fast
faster than Ruby and Python
which I consider about equal
well at least Python 3 & Ruby 1.9
don't make me bust out "/usr/bin/time -v java hello.class"
ballen: Python is way faster than Ruby, just do "/usr/bin/time -v hello.py" compared to hello.rb.  about 10 times faster after the initial run (when it compiles to the .pyc)
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=python3&lang2=java&box=1
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=python3&lang2=yarv&box=1
always a fun website
I don't think they ran the bytecode version...
really is quite a bit faster than ruby
Lua is pretty damn fast for an interpreted language
can't go wrong with C though...
fast, fast and fast
yep
Scala is interesting
as well as Clean
Clean was designed for math though
which most of those tests are
ah
Yea Lua would be good to learn one of these days
i "learned" enough of it to write some cool imapfilter scripts
it has a nice structure
http://www.keplerproject.org web framework for Lua
I really don't think the language is the barrier in most cases though, its often the database
oh nice, Ohm does its sorting inside of Redis
sort in C > Ruby
ah nice
so I've settled on using a set for each user that maintains an index of friends posts
pretty sure its most the scalable option
"I see scripts to rebuild / verify "indexes" in your future"
;)
yea yea yea
it shouldn't be needed
only if there is a crash while its doing cleanup before a delete of a post
and then all I'd have to is crawl through each user's set and validate the story still exists
also I love that the sinatra app is currently only 11MB in RAM so far
feck have to deal with when new friends are added
cool
woot it works
minus the add/remove friend thing
nice
quite quick too, of course its doing like two friends
haha
not quite testing at scale
I can see why Twitter has gone through so much growing pains
especially if you just hacked together a solution
yup
Erlang and Haskell are also fast, if you're looking to write a fast server quickly.
Just sayin'.
The problem with Twitter wasn't Ruby, it was Ruby on Rails.
There really isn't a problem with Twitter. Any language wouldn't have scaled as they wanted. The site saw massive growth, and any framework would have had to be modified to cope with that load.
morning
Yeah, the problem with Twitter was the DB and the infrastructure.
http://www.gtk-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/111075-2.png - OTOH, LaTeX preview sounds kinda nice.
(Referencing an old conversation in here.)
Oh, that's pretty.
do you have to generate the preview or is it automagical
http://code.google.com/p/gummi/ - not sure, couldn't really figure it out from here.
ah
oh well
mike-burns: neat lookin
I'm not giving up vim any time soon (nor writing papers), but it's certainly pretty.
yep
hi up_the_irons
anyone there? :p
nuke^: hey
yo
:)
im having a problem, only the ip ending in *.66 seems to get me eggs on irc, all the others i get this
Couldn't listen on port '35678' on the given address. Please make sure 'my-ip' is set correctly, or try a different port.
tried all, changing ports nothing
nuke^: what's your full IP address
206.125.169.66/70
nuke^: you don't have the other IPs assigned to your eth0
nuke^: assign 'em, and it'll work
i think i messed up
it should be eth0:0 ip1 eth0:1 ip2 right?
nuke^: they all can be on eth0.  "sudo ip address add x.x.x.x dev eth0"
nuke^: the eth0:1, eth0:2, etc... is an old method
oops i did ifconfig eth0
nuke^: should be alive again
ty
nuke^: next time you do that, hit the VNC console.  or, in fact, you should probably be doing those changes from VNC until you know how to do it right ;)
vnc console its new for me i never used it on my others vps, i believe they dont use this metho
nuke^: yeah, they probably don't.  a serial-over-IP method is coming soon too
i had another question, or better help, i looked that i have ipv6 on the vps, i never use it or anything, any way u cold tell me or point me somewhere i could read/learn anything how to use it over irc
nuke^: it's pretty similar to IPv4, you just have a lot more addresses.  I also pre-configure VMs with IPv6 support, so all you need to do, really, is connect to an IRC server's IPv6 address, like: bitchx irc.ipv6.freenode.net
and if i want it to resolve to something, the ipv6 address?
nuke^: not sure what you're asking
reverses, I'd guess
cant ipv6 rdns to something
yah
nuke^: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/reverse-dns
nuke^: same thing applies for IPv6
ty :)
sry about all the question, new thing for me
np
for what i read, i can use for example freedns.afraid nameserver since i have an account there, to control the ipv6 subnet
freenode death
Kilt him dead
Well, damn... I went on a ride too
ergh split
did u saw my last line about freedns
nuke^: nope
for what i read, i can use for example freedns.afraid nameserver since i have an account there, to control the ipv6 subnet
nuke^: neato
nuke^: give me a couple  name servers, and i'll set the delegation
neato?
thats yes?
lol
neat, but better
hehe
ok
ns1.afraid.org ns2 ns3 and ns4
my IPv4 endpoint, my side of the ipv6 tunnel woudl be my ipv4 on the vps right?
nuke^: you're not tunneled, so that would not apply
look for "native IPv6" somewhere
ok
hm hey ask to create a tunnel
it was what i was doing
on hurricane electric
doing/did
yeah
the ipv6 would be like 2607:f2f8:3100::/48 -> 2607:f2f8:3100::1 or 2607:f2f8:3100::2 right?
not 1 i see now
nuke^: click "Add reverse IPv6 subnet", then input "2607:f2f8:3100::/48"
did
then added 2607:f2f8:3100::2 to nuke.nuke.nuke for testing
is this correct?
nuke^: looks right
/dns 2607:f2f8:3100::2 doesnt resolve to nothing. hm
nuke^: i think they take a little time to update
garry@ice:~ $ host 2607:f2f8:3100::2
2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1.3.8.f.2.f.7.0.6.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer nuke.nuke.nuke.
nuke^: dig +trace -x <ip> is your best friend, when doing DNS stuff
hehe cool
http://cker.in/~nuke/tunneldetail.jpg
was gonna say to check if everything was cool here
but i guess it is
nuke^: i'm not sure how the tunnel settings come into play, since your VPS has native IPv6
its working so all good, hehe
ty u :)
nuke^: cool :)
nuke^: now you're talkin
nukeAFK: ^^ :)
hehe
how long does it usually take for a new vps to be set up and made available?
up_the_irons is the one that sets them up
if hes around not a long time, usually does it later in the day
ah