baklava: I mean, could you send that root password to baklava@example.com instead? I'm having problems with my other e-mail.
up_the_irons: whoa, LOL
cool, then if you sign up, that'll be two for today ;)
-: baklava hands up_the_irons a rake for the money.
up_the_irons: hahahaah
-: up_the_irons would have gone into porn if he wanted to rake in dough
jeev: heh
ballen: http://jobs.arstechnica.com/list/444/
speaking of porn
jeev: heh
ballen: Gur novyvgl gb haqrefgnaq gung guvf vf ABG fgebat rapelcgvba.
wtf is that
baklava: I'm trying to deicde whether or not my desire for FreeBSD is worth the money right now
up_the_irons: baklava: you're looking at pgrmr's $6 plan's huh? ;)
jeev: whats pgrmr
ballen: another vps
jeev: ahh
up_the_irons: jeev: http://www.prgmr.com/xen/
jeev: yea i'm looking
cheap
but
if you need the bandwidth
heh
i'd try it one day maybe
but
this is perfect for me
i dont even need this one!
up_the_irons: jeev just loves me
;)
jeev: lol
even their colo is cheap
up_the_irons: until their he.net goes out
baklava: up_the_irons: not the $6, but their longer contracts are tempting with good VPS stats
up_the_irons: nobody serious about being a service provider can be single homed
baklava: they don't have HVM
up_the_irons: baklava: gotcha
right, it's all paravirt
jeev: you try he yet ?
ballen: NetBSD is a pain
up_the_irons: jeev: no
ballen: you want FreeBSD
up_the_irons: ballen: my ns2 is still NetBSD 3.0 ;)
under Xen, heh
ballen: not saying its not a good OS
just more of a pain
baklava: you can do FreeBSD, but you have to do a bit of a workaround... at the end of October, 8.0 is supposed to be released with paravirt support
ballen: I'll believe it when I see it
baklava: though Kip has been absent on the FreeBSD-Xen mailing list so it's not looking great
up_the_irons: i wonder if that is losing momentum b/c HVM solutions are becoming a viable alternative
baklava: well there are howtos for the FreeBSD setup and it's in the FreeBSD handbook for 7.0 on Xen 3.0, but it's a little different with 3.3
up_the_irons: chip manufacturers can get their chips to run any faster (I have a 2.4GHz Xeon that I got in 2003 ;), so they just pack more features; and one big one right now is HVM
baklava: Red Hat is supposedly putting their eggs with KVM
up_the_irons: Given that KVM got accepted into the linux kernel, that's not really surprising
Xen has been crying to get in, but Linus, et. al. have sighted numerous problems, and have refused to do so
ballen: yea Xen isn't doing so hot, at least from what I've seen
XenServer is a pain the ass compared to ESX
up_the_irons: it really sucked when a Xen box I administer started kernel panicking every 5 minutes, which I suspect was the new kernel based NFS, and I couldn't do anything about it. Cuz I can't upgrade the Linux kernel without Xen having done so first
ballen: and doesn't run FreeBSD worth a shit
baklava: the prgmr guys are releasing a Xen book published by NoStarch in October so at least they're involved
up_the_irons: that's cool
jeev: To formalize this, I will guarantee 99.5% uptime - this means that if service is down for more than 3.6 hours in any given month, affected customers will get a service credit that is equal to 25% of what they paid for the month in which the SLA was not met. (Note, this is down from 100%, but also note, I do pay this out. Many customers actually have complained about not being billed... turns out it was that because of the service credits due to my mist
damn
99.5 ? lol
i'ven ever seen anyting so low
i dont blame him but still
baklava: but yea, I'm wary about running production machines with the current FreeBSD issues in Xen
yea, you can see his blog with posted downtimes
unfortunately, money is just an issue for me atm... at least until I find out about this job by the end of the month
and don't want to be jumping all over the place, so I have to choose carefully ;)
up_the_irons: i think ballen would freak if I had 3.6 hours of downtime in a month, OH SNAP ;)
baklava: okay, my girlfriend is getting frustrated, I've gotta go :P
ballen: hah
yep
up_the_irons: baklava: l8r!
baklava: talk to you guys later, thanks again
up_the_irons: np, see you later
ballen: later
http://jobs.arstechnica.com/list/405/
Wierd can't find any info about that company
http://aapcomm.com/
solid website
jeev: god RHEL is gay
up_the_irons: hahahahaa
ballen: RHEL is indeed gay
prolly should nuke it and install FreeBSd
up_the_irons: that site reminds me of: https://www.trit.net/corp/
Qsource: ^^ you should remove 'Website coming soon', has been that way for years :)
Qsource: other than that, it is actually a very no non-sense, to-the-point, site :)
ballen: haha
<html>
<head>
<title>AAP Communications, LLC</title>
</head>
<body>
<p>AAP Communications.</p>
</body>
</html>
they even have some html in there
impressive
up_the_irons: bah, that wouldn't validate
they need a <div>
ballen: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Faapcomm.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
passes HTML 4.01 Transitional
up_the_irons: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffreebsdvps.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.654
ballen: anywho what's everyone's opinion on applying to that job posting, with no company info
i.e. chances of getting owned
up_the_irons: give it a try; DigiSynd (my day job) was "stealth" for almost 18 months. and yeah, it was hard to hire b/c people saw the site and thought "who the heck are these guys?"
ballen: mmk
http://jobs.arstechnica.com/list/438/
go create a Hadoop cluster
up_the_irons: heh, Hadoop
jeev: http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v332/189/56/503002888/n503002888_1394133_9173.jpg
rhel user!
up_the_irons: that's pretty scary
ballen: aahahahah
sleep time
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up_the_irons: g'night
baklava: up_the_irons: the new one is from me :P
up_the_irons: baklava: aah!
baklava: nice :)
I was wondering, but wasn't sure...
baklava: hehe, didn't want to ask again huh
up_the_irons: didn't want your gf to get mad ;)
baklava: well I was supposed to go to this Korean restaurant with my girlfriend and I'd been waiting for her to finish getting ready... then when she was ready, I'd started talking to you a bit and asked her to give me 5 minutes
up_the_irons: ah, haha
baklava: well, I tried to keep her from going to lay down on the bed and watching tv while she waited, but she insisted... 7 minutes later, I asked her to go and of course she started not feeling good
fast forward to now, I'm still starving, she said she can't go, and is laying in bed sleeping
so that month was my dinner :P
up_the_irons: LOLZ
i owe her one
baklava: yea
lol
up_the_irons: baklava: alright, gimme about 20-30 mins and your VM will be cooked and ready to serve
baklava: delicious
up_the_irons: lol
baklava: to confirm, you wanted the extra 5 IPs for $4 extra?
baklava: yep!
up_the_irons: ok
-: up_the_irons keeps cooking
baklava stuffs his napkin in his collar.
ballen|away: oh the metaphors!
anywho
up_the_irons: speaking of metaphors... anyone into git (the version control system?)
my co-workers and I had a pun-off
the formatting kinda sucks, but you'll get the idea: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/869359/puns.txt
baklava: served
-: baklava bangs his fork() on the table!
up_the_irons: hahhaha
baklava: just logged in, looks good. thanks! unfortunately, I won't be able to play with it much until tomorrow :|
up_the_irons: baklava: no problem
baklava: then the fun awaits you tomorrow... :)
baklava: and breakfast, I hope
-: Thorgrimr thinks up_the_irons needs to hold git classes too
up_the_irons: heh
Thorgrimr: Interesting discussion it was (puns)
Nat_UB: irons: Reboot as necessary...thanks!
up_the_irons: Nat_UB: ok
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up_the_irons: Nat_UB: done
Nat_UB: you should have a /dev/ad1
completely raw, unformatted. do with it as you please :)
Thorgrimr: He fill the other up with pics already?
Nat_UB: irons: Thanks
up_the_irons: Thorgrimr: sure did
Nat_UB: np
Thorgrimr: figures hehe
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Thorgrimr: hmm ports or packages...
Nat_UB: ports
Thorgrimr: So, what.. the new system uses a 'csup' rather than cvsup?
Nat_UB: I use freebsd-update for src and portsnap for ports...
Thorgrimr: hmm, portsnap looks interesting
mhoran: portsnap is great!
freebsd-update, as well.
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Thorgrimr: Zzzz okay, who's suckin up all the bandwidth :)
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ballen: up_the_irons: Ever see: http://www.sun.com/startupessentials/overview.jsp
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