I didn't see it mentioned on the site, but I may have just missed it... what is the provisioning time for a new VPS?
id say within 24 hours by night time
you'll probably get the login information tomorrow if you ordered today
where you from baklava
Washington, DC
you lebanese?
nope, nor Greek nor Turkish
then what!
mix of a lot of stuff... German, Native American, stuff, stuff2, etc
ahh
I get that question at least once every day though
people on Dalnet don't even bother to ask, they just PM me and start speaking in Turkish
heh
i'm armenian.
oh yea? this Armenian girl made me baklava once. her grandmother's recipe... pretty good
lol
hey, another new person
samferry: welcome to #arpnetworks
forcefollow: what's up?
heh
anyone here network guys?  I need opinions on this switch: "Foundry EdgeIron 48G EIF48G Gigabit Ethernet switch"
was thinking of getting it for running backups through it
runnin backups through a switch ?
jeev: to connect to the backup servers?
why yes :)
that's the worst thing i heard
is it an expensive switch
not really
about $800 used
this is going to be on a private network?
why not get a dell powerconnect or something and call it a day
for 100 bux?
i hate dell switches
cli management non-existent
of course it's existent
it's ieee, like ios
also, it needs to be 4096 vlan capable
last time I configured a dell switch, I needed a windows machine to connect to it.  FFS
check out the 5324
na
that's a load
i can connect one for you and let you terminal in
ssh into the box
and minicom
ahh wait, no serial on the linux box there
yea, it's ieee standard, works great.
jeev: oh yeah?  let me try :)
hmm, i'd have to get it on slax or something for you to conect
i should be in the office in about 30 minutes
you'll wait ?
jeev: it's not on a public network?
no
it's at the office, i have to ship to the datacenter
jeev: yeah of course, no rush, i'm going out to breakfast now anyway
ok
bbiab
cd $food
up_the_irons: what up?
hey
buffer overflow re: $food
i ate too much
I'm starving!
Yeah, me too...  Chinese buffet
up_the_irons: so I was reading that you'd delegate rDNS?
baklava: sure
cool. so do you have dedicated RAM?
baklava: yeah, all VMs get dedicated RAM
Nice, what's the expected provisioning time after orders are placed?
baklava: within 24 hours.  if you order today, i'd set it up tonight
i'd actually set it up now, but i have to go to a friend's house now
irons: drink one for me!
LOL
Yeah, me too
baklava: Get hooked up...u won't be disappointed!
if you drink one for everyone, I'd might want to wait ;D
hahaha
the wife is saying i'm holding up the show, time for me to bail
irons: Already drinking?  That's the way to keep it fun
bbl
Oh, gotta obey!
oh, I'm sure I wouldn't be disappointed, it's just a matter of deciding who not to be disappointed with :)
Whips cracking....head out
cd $out
baklava...who u looking at?
prgmr, rootbsd
Rootbsd is nice...get much more for the money here...and IPv6
yep, though they are fully virtualized on Xen, which is one of the reasons I was looking at them in the first place
I'm mainly comparing with prgmr
Cool...never looked at them before...
I wanted to ask up_the_irons about discounts for multiple-month contracts
Good luck...not sure on multi-month discounts...he'll be back later on
thanks, I wish I would have caught him an hour ago :P
do you know if he provides DNS hosting
I'm a numbers guy...don't touch the stuff
:)
honestly, I never asked...have my own DNS
yea, I'd want to run my own DNS too, but I may want to separate a domain or two from my IP
I don't know whether or not to groan or laugh when my mother sends me virus hoax forwards
baklava: I've given a 10% discount for 12 month signups
hmm anyone use Backblaze for desktop/laptop backup?
baklava: I can host DNS for you, but it's not a control panel deal, you'll have to open a support ticket to make additions / changes.  I encourage people to run their own DNS servers if they will be doing that a lot (we can delegate, of course)
ballen: interesting, I just read about them : http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/
yea I saw that
crazy how many drives they put in a box
slow storage
hehe
but lots of storage on the cheap
yeah
about as cheap as you can get
how fast do you need backups anyway? ;)
yea
I imagine they keep your data in mutliple places
as least I jope
hope
i think that's what they said
even if the other "place" is the next rack over
well with that hardware design is needs it
yeah
ugh, wish I was on campus the initial upload for backup takes freaking forver
need an uncapped OC-3
68gigs sitting on my laptop that needs backing up
currently it sits on Amazon S3 as well
ever see http://www.tarsnap.com/
baklava: not sure what you mean by "fully virtualized", but KVM/QEMU is a full virtualization solution.  In the end, it is performance you care about anyway, and I don't think you'd be disappointed by the performance of my VMs.  If you are, there's a 30 day guarantee; cancel and get your money back :)
run by the current FreeBSD Security Officer
hehe
man i need some starbucks
that does sounds good
thankfully, they are open until midnight in  my area
300 picodollars USD per byte of bandwidth used ($0.30 / GB), and
300 picodollars USD per byte-month of storage ($0.30 / GB / month).
more expensive than S3
bleh
5 bucks a month unlimited from back blaze is better
well duh
;)
hah
S3 is expensive if u crunch the numbers
hmm so the question is where the hell do I get some good upload bandwidth for free
S3 is all about going back to "feeding the meter", as is EC2.  there was a great article about it recently, regarding cloud computing, gotta dig it up
yea
wanna know what the cheapest storage is?
I have a copy of JungleDisk and use it with S3
suure?
load up a 1U with 4 2TB disks and colo it for $50 per month somwhere
thats pretty damn expensive
at $50, it doesn't even need to be reliable, it's a backup
8TB for $50 ?
gotta gover hardware costs
cover*
that's pretty good
cheaper than S3
true
I have 60-70GB
that needs a good backup
betcha backblaze has a hidden cap. all "unlimited" plans do
likely
but maybe not
they're very web 2.0 ish
up_the_irons: hey, let me catch back up on the buffer
even vonage terms of service says they can cut you off if you use too much of their unlimited $24.95 ;)
talked to the CEO when the Mac client beta came out
baklava: sure
seemed fairly staright
straight*
as far as being honest
paying 14 a month at S3
ballen: anything unlimited would work like an all you can eat buffet.  Why do they work?  Because everyone has a physical limit to how much you can eat.  Big fat f*ckers kill their business model; but for everyone else, it works ;)
ahahahahahah
so anything "unlimited" banks on the fact that there is some hidden limit somewhere, and if there isn't, they have to make one up
yea
as long as I can max out my upload bandwidth, and don't run into a max limit
I'm not worries
wirried
right now, this hidden limit might be the average disk utilization of some dude on their desktop.  this would be proportional to what disk sizes are available in the market.  right now, it's like 1TB - 2TB in SATA.  and that's always going up
so i think something will give in these "unlimited" markets
yeah
what's the bandwidth overage fee, and what are the options for handling it once the cap has been hit?
i just thought of a funny "DoS" against backblaze (or anything unlimited service provider).  Couldn't I just buy an account and keep on upload packs of 'dd if=/dev/zero of=foo bs=4M count=100000' files?
i mean, they say unlimited...
bet ya i could fill up one of their red boxes ;)
hahaha
if you have the bandwidth
be a good test
wonder if they compress at all
baklava: $0.50 / GB overage, and if you ever hit your limit, i'd probably just ask you to upgrade your plan, instead of pay overage :)
ballen: man i got me da bandwidth!
hah
ballen: 4 Gbps is my total network, I could haul some ass!
actually they use JFS, so I doubt there is compression
unless they're doing it in code
*actually*, that's a good point...
(not jFS ;)
but bandwidth
hah
they may cap bandwidth
at some point
even if I have 4 Gbps, who says what they have?  They could cap at whatever they want, limiting how much  you could transfer
yep
to some theoretical limit on what you could realistically store
about 7 months or so ago
I was doing 4MB/s
up to them
on a 10GB/s pipe
so like 32 Mbps... not bad
ah
up_the_irons: yea, I'd rather just get cut off at that point as I shouldn't be hitting a bandwidth cap and if I did it would be due to something malicious
baklava: I could make sure you never get overages, sure
baklava: you'd just get cut off at the max
hah, I was within a block of Blackblaze's office last month
wonder if they've tested out ZFS
Alright, well I think that's all the questions I had. Now I just have to choose! Thanks for all the help.
a guy I work with says ZFS is da bomb
baklava: no prob :)
ZFS is da domb
only thing is replication
how so?
so you have send and receive
thats cool
but something like DRBD
or other live syncing
i c
starbucks time
cd $coffee
kk