[00:24] this is fast enough to actually irc from without a bouncer, very good latency to au [03:49] obsidieth: haha, awesome [03:49] yeah im really suprised, no shell i have ever had has let me do that [03:50] RAD [03:51] obsidieth: show me your v4 reverse DNS setup (pastie) when you get a chance, I'll write a Knowledge Base article on how to set up sub-class C delegations [03:53] Qsource: you PM'd? [03:59] ok, will do [03:59] theres a possibility that my setup is a super bad example [03:59] but ill shw you what ive got [04:00] obsidieth: I'll clean it up ;) [04:08] *** ConquerorX has joined #arpnetworks [04:08] welcome ConquerorX [04:09] : [04:09] :) [04:10] :) [04:44] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [04:53] cablehead: do you know Joel in NetOps at Slide? [05:27] *** ConquerorX has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [05:28] *** ConquerorX has joined #arpnetworks [06:03] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [06:32] up_the_irons: RFC 2317? http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2317.txt ? [06:33] mhoran: yeah, for sub-class C reverse DNS delegations [07:01] *** ballen|away is now known as ballen [07:07] we have 15 people in the room, it's growin! [07:07] i remember when u were little [07:07] ;) [07:07] heh [07:23] and back to normal wasn't the rc script it nginx was listening just on ipv6 [07:23] i swear it was working before [07:26] ballen: i thought nginx didn't support ipv6? guess it's new [07:26] yea supports it fine [07:27] listen [::]:80 [07:27] you may have to build it with the option though [07:27] i know in freebsd ports it will give you the option [07:30] ballen: ah cool [07:58] *** ballen is now known as ballen|away [08:01] *** ConquerorX has left [08:51] * obsidieth wipes brow [08:51] kernel compiling makes me nervous [09:09] *** ballen|away is now known as ballen [09:19] up_the_irons: yeah I do [09:19] up_the_irons: wait, do you know Joel? [09:32] *** ballen has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [09:35] *** vtoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [09:57] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [10:10] *** cablehead has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [10:10] *** cablehead has joined #arpnetworks [10:10] *** cablehead has quit IRC (Client Quit) [10:22] *** cablehead has joined #arpnetworks [10:36] *** ballen has joined #arpnetworks [10:58] *** vtoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [11:22] *** vtoms has joined #arpnetworks [11:33] cablehead: sweet; i don't know Joel, but I sent him a peering request. If he denies it, now I can have you slap him ;) [11:33] up_the_irons: haha [11:34] up_the_irons: he seems like a crazy smart guy [11:34] cablehead: cool [11:35] up_the_irons: if a mention a request from Garry Dolley, will he know what I'm talking about? [11:36] cablehead: yeah probably [11:36] cablehead: does this show for you, or is it private: http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=13949 [11:38] up_the_irons: i can see that [11:38] cablehead: cool, that's where i got his contact info [11:41] up_the_irons: will you gain much peering with slide? [11:44] cablehead: probably not, given ARP and Slide are both content networks mostly, but it helps build out the network some; The DigiSynd office gets bandwidth from me, so anyone in the office seeing Slide content could reach it directly at that point. a little gain [11:46] up_the_irons: pretty sure slide have peering with facebook, but ARP wouldn't get that eh?, by peering with slide .. my network knowledge is feeble [11:49] cablehead: right, I wouldn't get that. peering usually means you get routes only of the peer network, not anyone else's. I already have peering with Facebook though, so that's covered :) [11:50] up_the_irons: oh nice :) [11:50] cablehead: yeah, FB is pretty easy going about it [12:31] *** vtoms1 has joined #arpnetworks [12:32] *** vtoms1 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [12:46] *** syminet has quit IRC ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") [12:52] *** mhoran has quit IRC ("Uh?") [13:35] *** ballen is now known as ballen|away [14:51] *** vtoms has quit IRC ("Leaving.") [16:37] *** ballen|away is now known as ballen [17:22] *** marty__ has joined #arpnetworks [17:23] *** marty__ has left "Konversation terminated!" [17:45] I wonder who marty__ was [17:49] i unno [19:19] *** heavysixer has quit IRC () [19:26] *** forcefollow has joined #arpnetworks [19:26] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [19:27] hello [19:27] hello [19:28] how long does it generally take to get a vps setup? [19:28] umm depends when up_the_irons is around [19:29] day max [19:29] one other question, i was planning on getting an openbsd one to toy around with, if i screw it up and need it reloaded is that going to be an issue? [19:30] shouldn't be, again not my company. I'm just a customer [19:30] * forcefollow nods [19:30] you like the service? [19:30] Garry (up_the_irons) can simply recreate it [19:30] yea like it quite a bit [19:31] ive been using slicehost but im wanting to move away from linux [19:31] yep I made the same move [19:31] this is def a smaller company [19:32] thats cool, i actually like that [19:32] and Garry is the only guy running the place. [19:32] but he seems quite smart [19:32] and works long after hours to get things done if needed [19:32] i know how that is, im a small business owner also [19:33] performance is good, I had a 256 slice with Arch on it [19:33] at Slicehost [19:33] I havea 768 vps FreeBSD here [19:33] quite a bit faster [19:33] i can barely run what i need with 512 [19:33] yea [19:33] we were hitting 256 pretty hrad [19:34] hard* [19:34] i bet that was swapping like crazy [19:34] yea a little [19:34] we slimmed everything down a lot [19:34] my dev server only had 256 for awhile and it was swapping a lot [19:35] have you used OpenBSD or FreeBSD much? [19:36] i used to use freebsd quite a bit back around 4.x [19:36] and i just started playing with openbsd last weekend [19:37] ah, I prefer Free over Open [19:37] unless you're making a router [19:37] i cant decide which i want [19:37] i'd say for dev work Free is nicer [19:38] yeah you're probably right [19:39] i wonder if he is planning on offering openbsd 4.5 soon [19:39] if you'd like send an email over to garry at gdolley \at\ arpnetworks.com [19:39] he's running QEMU based VM's [19:40] so if you can upgrade OpenBSD inside the VM it should work fine [19:40] assuming theres not issues with 4.5 on QEMU [19:41] looks like you can [19:43] cool, alright I'm taking off, Garry hangs out around this room a lot [19:43] she either hand out, or email him [19:43] so* [19:43] hang* [19:43] *** ballen is now known as ballen|away [19:43] i think im just going to go ahead and sign up [19:43] thanks ballen|away [19:44] no prob [19:47] *** heavysixer has quit IRC () [20:16] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [20:43] *** heavysixer has quit IRC () [20:47] *** ballen|away is now known as ballen [21:20] * up_the_irons is in da house [21:20] ballen: thanks for helping forcefollow in my absense :) [21:20] no prob [21:21] forcefollow: OpenBSD 4.5 isn't on the list b/c when I tried installing it I got a kernel panic [21:21] forcefollow: A new KVM/QEMU was installed yesterday, so maybe I should try again... [21:22] either way, it'd require some testing; I don't like to sell something that "worked once when I tried it", preferring some real abuse ;) [21:22] up_the_irons: have you tried FreeBSD 8 Beta 3 [21:22] ballen: not yet [21:22] be interesting if it has any issues [21:22] forcefollow: I have a production OpenBSD 4.4 amd64 VM running and it has been rock solid; so I know 4.4 works quite well [21:23] I've been running beta 2 on a few machines and its been quite stable [21:23] been running for several months now [21:23] ballen: ah cool [21:23] in vmware not qemu though [21:23] yeah [21:23] the wife beckons, I'll bbl [21:23] kk [21:48] forcefollow: cool [21:48] err [21:48] up_the_irons: cool [21:48] up_the_irons: http://sysadminschronicles.com/past/2009/8/26/freebsd_ipv6_over_openvpn [21:48] ill just stick with that one then, btw i placed an order under my gf's name (the card is in her name) [21:49] getting the GF to pay for the VPS nice ;-) [21:49] lol its my money in her bank account [21:49] hmm [21:49] that's likely worse [21:50] but I suppose I do that same, joint account though [21:50] we've been together for 5 years, i trust her [21:51] thats good [22:12] *** ballen is now known as ballen|away [23:10] ballen|away: nice writeup! [23:15] up_the_irons: did you get my order? [23:15] no rush, just asking [23:15] forcefollow: yup! [23:15] It's In There(tm) [23:15] cool [23:15] :) [23:15] so you do all this by yourself? [23:16] forcefollow: how'd you find out about my VPS services BTW? [23:16] google openbsd vps [23:16] forcefollow: yup, by myself pretty much [23:16] ah.. that WHT thread i bet [23:16] yup [23:16] you should do some SEO on your site, cause there arent many places that offer openbsd vps [23:17] i bet you could get your page rank quite a bit [23:17] *up [23:18] forcefollow: yeah, I don't know how to start on that kinda stuff. I've just started some stuff with freebsdvps.com (one of my domains), and in a week I got it on the first page google results for "freebsd vps" (albeit on the bottom) [23:18] forcefollow: BTW, for more about the company and me, I've explained it here: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2009-08-12,Wed&sel=50#l46 [23:19] i'm really glad I decided to log this room... ;) [23:19] having an irc channel was one of the reasons i decided to try it out [23:20] awesome, I was hoping it'd have that effect as well ;) [23:21] but ya know, regarding OpenBSD, I don't know how much of a market there is for it. I love it for my routers, but I don't get many requests for it as a VM. FreeBSD trumps there of course. And Linux beats FreeBSD in market, but since I don't push my Linux VMs much, I get more FreeBSD orders [23:22] i might get you to change me over to freebsd, i have a lot more experience with it but lately ive been trying some new stuff [23:22] im really bored with what i know right now (php/linux/etc etc) [23:23] haha [23:23] yeah [23:25] but if all goes well i might move my work stuff over also [23:25] we currently have 3 servers with slicehost [23:25] that'd be great :) [23:27] forcefollow: what distro do you use at slicehost? [23:27] fedora [23:27] ugh, that's one I don't do (I never had a Red Hat based distro not get hacked _eventually_) [23:28] yeah thats why i was looking into *bsd, security [23:28] there was a remote bind exploit about a month ago and it scared me [23:29] i've been upgrading my kernels like mad b/c of recent Linux exploits [23:29] lame isnt it? [23:29] yeah [23:30] not that FreeBSD is all that much better. Stock 7.1 had a local priv escalation to root bug [23:30] eek [23:30] everything has bugs [23:30] ;) [23:30] i havent used freebsd since about 4.x [23:31] indeed, i had to fix a few today in my own code [23:32] My first sys admin job was working with FreeBSD 1.x boxes ;) [23:32] I remember when I upgraded them to 2 [23:34] wow [23:34] old school =) [23:34] haha yeah [23:35] im thinking about trying out lighttpd too [23:38] ah, i've used that some in the past [23:38] works pretty good, pretty fast [23:50] im also getting interested in python and maybe scala (it looks neat) [23:51] i know a lot of python guys [23:51] i spent a couple weeks playing with it and when i had to go back to php i missed it [23:52] the most I ever did with Python was getting the [FBI] bot (irclogger) to talk SSL [23:52] yeah, php is my last choice of a language [23:52] i used to do it a lot, but no longer, there are way better ways to make web apps these days [23:52] what do you preferr now? [23:53] Rails and Sinatra [23:54] ahh im a big zend framework fan [23:54] ah [23:56] bigs: did u guys actually compile a new kernel on your VM? [23:56] django is sexy for doing quick CRUD [23:57] never worked with django [23:59] :p [23:59] yeah limited length nicks. [23:59] stubborn ol efnet