up_the_irons: obsidieth: haha, awesome obsidieth: yeah im really suprised, no shell i have ever had has let me do that up_the_irons: RAD
obsidieth: show me your v4 reverse DNS setup (pastie) when you get a chance, I'll write a Knowledge Base article on how to set up sub-class C delegations
Qsource: you PM'd? obsidieth: ok, will do
theres a possibility that my setup is a super bad example
but ill shw you what ive got up_the_irons: obsidieth: I'll clean it up ;) ***: ConquerorX has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: welcome ConquerorX ConquerorX: :
:) up_the_irons: :) ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: cablehead: do you know Joel in NetOps at Slide? ***: ConquerorX has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
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vtoms has joined #arpnetworks mhoran: up_the_irons: RFC 2317? http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2317.txt ? up_the_irons: mhoran: yeah, for sub-class C reverse DNS delegations ***: ballen|away is now known as ballen up_the_irons: we have 15 people in the room, it's growin!
<sniff> i remember when u were little
;) ballen: heh
and back to normal wasn't the rc script it nginx was listening just on ipv6
i swear it was working before up_the_irons: ballen: i thought nginx didn't support ipv6? guess it's new ballen: yea supports it fine
listen [::]:80
you may have to build it with the option though
i know in freebsd ports it will give you the option up_the_irons: ballen: ah cool ***: ballen is now known as ballen|away
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up_the_irons: wait, do you know Joel? ***: ballen has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
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vtoms has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: cablehead: sweet; i don't know Joel, but I sent him a peering request. If he denies it, now I can have you slap him ;) cablehead: up_the_irons: haha
up_the_irons: he seems like a crazy smart guy up_the_irons: cablehead: cool cablehead: up_the_irons: if a mention a request from Garry Dolley, will he know what I'm talking about? up_the_irons: cablehead: yeah probably
cablehead: does this show for you, or is it private: http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=13949 cablehead: up_the_irons: i can see that up_the_irons: cablehead: cool, that's where i got his contact info cablehead: up_the_irons: will you gain much peering with slide? up_the_irons: cablehead: probably not, given ARP and Slide are both content networks mostly, but it helps build out the network some; The DigiSynd office gets bandwidth from me, so anyone in the office seeing Slide content could reach it directly at that point. a little gain cablehead: up_the_irons: pretty sure slide have peering with facebook, but ARP wouldn't get that eh?, by peering with slide .. my network knowledge is feeble up_the_irons: cablehead: right, I wouldn't get that. peering usually means you get routes only of the peer network, not anyone else's. I already have peering with Facebook though, so that's covered :) cablehead: up_the_irons: oh nice :) up_the_irons: cablehead: yeah, FB is pretty easy going about it ***: vtoms1 has joined #arpnetworks
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heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks forcefollow: hello ballen: hello forcefollow: how long does it generally take to get a vps setup? ballen: umm depends when up_the_irons is around
day max forcefollow: one other question, i was planning on getting an openbsd one to toy around with, if i screw it up and need it reloaded is that going to be an issue? ballen: shouldn't be, again not my company. I'm just a customer -: forcefollow nods forcefollow: you like the service? ballen: Garry (up_the_irons) can simply recreate it
yea like it quite a bit forcefollow: ive been using slicehost but im wanting to move away from linux ballen: yep I made the same move
this is def a smaller company forcefollow: thats cool, i actually like that ballen: and Garry is the only guy running the place.
but he seems quite smart
and works long after hours to get things done if needed forcefollow: i know how that is, im a small business owner also ballen: performance is good, I had a 256 slice with Arch on it
at Slicehost
I havea 768 vps FreeBSD here
quite a bit faster forcefollow: i can barely run what i need with 512 ballen: yea
we were hitting 256 pretty hrad
hard* forcefollow: i bet that was swapping like crazy ballen: yea a little
we slimmed everything down a lot forcefollow: my dev server only had 256 for awhile and it was swapping a lot ballen: have you used OpenBSD or FreeBSD much? forcefollow: i used to use freebsd quite a bit back around 4.x
and i just started playing with openbsd last weekend ballen: ah, I prefer Free over Open
unless you're making a router forcefollow: i cant decide which i want ballen: i'd say for dev work Free is nicer forcefollow: yeah you're probably right
i wonder if he is planning on offering openbsd 4.5 soon ballen: if you'd like send an email over to garry at gdolley at arpnetworks.com
he's running QEMU based VM's
so if you can upgrade OpenBSD inside the VM it should work fine
assuming theres not issues with 4.5 on QEMU forcefollow: looks like you can ballen: cool, alright I'm taking off, Garry hangs out around this room a lot
she either hand out, or email him
so*
hang* ***: ballen is now known as ballen|away forcefollow: i think im just going to go ahead and sign up
thanks ballen|away ballen|away: no prob ***: heavysixer has quit IRC ()
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ballen|away is now known as ballen -: up_the_irons is in da house up_the_irons: ballen: thanks for helping forcefollow in my absense :) ballen: no prob up_the_irons: forcefollow: OpenBSD 4.5 isn't on the list b/c when I tried installing it I got a kernel panic
forcefollow: A new KVM/QEMU was installed yesterday, so maybe I should try again...
either way, it'd require some testing; I don't like to sell something that "worked once when I tried it", preferring some real abuse ;) ballen: up_the_irons: have you tried FreeBSD 8 Beta 3 up_the_irons: ballen: not yet ballen: be interesting if it has any issues up_the_irons: forcefollow: I have a production OpenBSD 4.4 amd64 VM running and it has been rock solid; so I know 4.4 works quite well ballen: I've been running beta 2 on a few machines and its been quite stable up_the_irons: been running for several months now
ballen: ah cool ballen: in vmware not qemu though up_the_irons: yeah
the wife beckons, I'll bbl ballen: kk forcefollow: forcefollow: cool
err
up_the_irons: cool ballen: up_the_irons: http://sysadminschronicles.com/past/2009/8/26/freebsd_ipv6_over_openvpn forcefollow: ill just stick with that one then, btw i placed an order under my gf's name (the card is in her name) ballen: getting the GF to pay for the VPS nice ;-) forcefollow: lol its my money in her bank account ballen: hmm
that's likely worse
but I suppose I do that same, joint account though forcefollow: we've been together for 5 years, i trust her ballen: thats good ***: ballen is now known as ballen|away up_the_irons: ballen|away: nice writeup! forcefollow: up_the_irons: did you get my order?
no rush, just asking up_the_irons: forcefollow: yup!
It's In There(tm) forcefollow: cool up_the_irons: :) forcefollow: so you do all this by yourself? up_the_irons: forcefollow: how'd you find out about my VPS services BTW? forcefollow: google openbsd vps up_the_irons: forcefollow: yup, by myself pretty much
ah.. that WHT thread i bet forcefollow: yup
you should do some SEO on your site, cause there arent many places that offer openbsd vps
i bet you could get your page rank quite a bit
*up up_the_irons: forcefollow: yeah, I don't know how to start on that kinda stuff. I've just started some stuff with freebsdvps.com (one of my domains), and in a week I got it on the first page google results for "freebsd vps" (albeit on the bottom)
forcefollow: BTW, for more about the company and me, I've explained it here: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2009-08-12,Wed&sel=50#l46
i'm really glad I decided to log this room... ;) forcefollow: having an irc channel was one of the reasons i decided to try it out up_the_irons: awesome, I was hoping it'd have that effect as well ;)
but ya know, regarding OpenBSD, I don't know how much of a market there is for it. I love it for my routers, but I don't get many requests for it as a VM. FreeBSD trumps there of course. And Linux beats FreeBSD in market, but since I don't push my Linux VMs much, I get more FreeBSD orders forcefollow: i might get you to change me over to freebsd, i have a lot more experience with it but lately ive been trying some new stuff
im really bored with what i know right now (php/linux/etc etc) up_the_irons: haha
yeah forcefollow: but if all goes well i might move my work stuff over also
we currently have 3 servers with slicehost up_the_irons: that'd be great :)
forcefollow: what distro do you use at slicehost? forcefollow: fedora up_the_irons: ugh, that's one I don't do (I never had a Red Hat based distro not get hacked _eventually_) forcefollow: yeah thats why i was looking into *bsd, security
there was a remote bind exploit about a month ago and it scared me up_the_irons: i've been upgrading my kernels like mad b/c of recent Linux exploits forcefollow: lame isnt it? up_the_irons: yeah
not that FreeBSD is all that much better. Stock 7.1 had a local priv escalation to root bug forcefollow: eek up_the_irons: everything has bugs
;) forcefollow: i havent used freebsd since about 4.x
indeed, i had to fix a few today in my own code up_the_irons: My first sys admin job was working with FreeBSD 1.x boxes ;)
I remember when I upgraded them to 2 forcefollow: wow
old school =) up_the_irons: haha yeah forcefollow: im thinking about trying out lighttpd too up_the_irons: ah, i've used that some in the past
works pretty good, pretty fast forcefollow: im also getting interested in python and maybe scala (it looks neat) up_the_irons: i know a lot of python guys forcefollow: i spent a couple weeks playing with it and when i had to go back to php i missed it up_the_irons: the most I ever did with Python was getting the [FBI] bot (irclogger) to talk SSL
yeah, php is my last choice of a language
i used to do it a lot, but no longer, there are way better ways to make web apps these days forcefollow: what do you preferr now? up_the_irons: Rails and Sinatra forcefollow: ahh im a big zend framework fan up_the_irons: ah
bigs: did u guys actually compile a new kernel on your VM? forcefollow: django is sexy for doing quick CRUD up_the_irons: never worked with django obsidieth: :p
yeah limited length nicks.
stubborn ol efnet