this is fast enough to actually irc from without a bouncer, very good latency to au
obsidieth: haha, awesome
yeah im really suprised, no shell i have ever had has let me do that
RAD
obsidieth: show me your v4 reverse DNS setup (pastie) when you get a chance, I'll write a Knowledge Base article on how to set up sub-class C delegations
Qsource: you PM'd?
ok, will do
theres a possibility that my setup is a super bad example
but ill shw you what ive got
obsidieth: I'll clean it up ;)
welcome ConquerorX
:
:)
:)
cablehead: do you know Joel in NetOps at Slide?
up_the_irons: RFC 2317? http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2317.txt ?
mhoran: yeah, for sub-class C reverse DNS delegations
we have 15 people in the room, it's growin!
<sniff>  i remember when u were little
;)
heh
and back to normal wasn't the rc script it nginx was listening just on ipv6
i swear it was working before
ballen: i thought nginx didn't support ipv6?  guess it's new
yea supports it fine
listen [::]:80
you may have to build it with the option though
i know in freebsd ports it will give you the option
ballen: ah cool
kernel compiling makes me nervous
up_the_irons: yeah I do
up_the_irons: wait, do you know Joel?
cablehead: sweet; i don't know Joel, but I sent him a peering request.  If he denies it, now I can have you slap him ;)
up_the_irons: haha
up_the_irons: he seems like a crazy smart guy
cablehead: cool
up_the_irons: if a mention a request from Garry Dolley, will he know what I'm talking about?
cablehead: yeah probably
cablehead: does this show for you, or is it private: http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=13949
up_the_irons: i can see that
cablehead: cool, that's where i got his contact info
up_the_irons: will you gain much peering with slide?
cablehead: probably not, given ARP and Slide are both content networks mostly, but it helps build out the network some; The DigiSynd office gets bandwidth from me, so anyone in the office seeing Slide content could reach it directly at that point.  a little gain
up_the_irons: pretty sure slide have peering with facebook, but ARP wouldn't get that eh?, by peering with slide .. my network knowledge is feeble
cablehead: right, I wouldn't get that.  peering usually means you get routes only of the peer network, not anyone else's.  I already have peering with Facebook though, so that's covered :)
up_the_irons: oh nice :)
cablehead: yeah, FB is pretty easy going about it
I wonder who marty__ was
i unno
hello
hello
how long does it generally take to get a vps setup?
umm depends when up_the_irons is around
day max
one other question, i was planning on getting an openbsd one to toy around with, if i screw it up and need it reloaded is that going to be an issue?
shouldn't be, again not my company. I'm just a customer
you like the service?
Garry (up_the_irons) can simply recreate it
yea like it quite a bit
ive been using slicehost but im wanting to move away from linux
yep I made the same move
this is def a smaller company
thats cool, i actually like that
and Garry is the only guy running the place.
but he seems quite smart
and works long after hours to get things done if needed
i know how that is, im a small business owner also
performance is good, I had a 256 slice with Arch on it
at Slicehost
I havea 768 vps FreeBSD here
quite a bit faster
i can barely run what i need with 512
yea
we were hitting 256 pretty hrad
hard*
i bet that was swapping like crazy
yea a little
we slimmed everything down a lot
my dev server only had 256 for awhile and it was swapping a lot
have you used OpenBSD or FreeBSD much?
i used to use freebsd quite a bit back around 4.x
and i just started playing with openbsd last weekend
ah, I prefer Free over Open
unless you're making a router
i cant decide which i want
i'd say for dev work Free is nicer
yeah you're probably right
i wonder if he is planning on offering openbsd 4.5 soon
if you'd like send an email over to garry at gdolley \at\ arpnetworks.com
he's running QEMU based VM's
so if you can upgrade OpenBSD inside the VM it should work fine
assuming theres not issues with 4.5 on QEMU
looks like you can
cool, alright I'm taking off, Garry hangs out around this room a lot
she either hand out, or email him
so*
hang*
i think im just going to go ahead and sign up
thanks ballen|away
no prob
ballen: thanks for helping forcefollow in my absense :)
no prob
forcefollow: OpenBSD 4.5 isn't on the list b/c when I tried installing it I got a kernel panic
forcefollow: A new KVM/QEMU was installed yesterday, so maybe I should try again...
either way, it'd require some testing; I don't like to sell something that "worked once when I tried it", preferring some real abuse ;)
up_the_irons: have you tried FreeBSD 8 Beta 3
ballen: not yet
be interesting if it has any issues
forcefollow: I have a production OpenBSD 4.4 amd64 VM running and it has been rock solid; so I know 4.4 works quite well
I've been running beta 2 on a few machines and its been quite stable
been running for several months now
ballen: ah cool
in vmware not qemu though
yeah
the wife beckons, I'll bbl
kk
forcefollow: cool
err
up_the_irons: cool
up_the_irons: http://sysadminschronicles.com/past/2009/8/26/freebsd_ipv6_over_openvpn
ill just stick with that one then, btw i placed an order under my gf's name (the card is in her name)
getting the GF to pay for the VPS nice ;-)
lol its my money in her bank account
hmm
that's likely worse
but I suppose I do that same, joint account though
we've been together for 5 years, i trust her
thats good
ballen|away: nice writeup!
up_the_irons: did you get my order?
no rush, just asking
forcefollow: yup!
It's In There(tm)
cool
:)
so you do all this by yourself?
forcefollow: how'd you find out about my VPS services BTW?
google openbsd vps
forcefollow: yup, by myself pretty much
ah.. that WHT thread i bet
yup
you should do some SEO on your site, cause there arent many places that offer openbsd vps
i bet you could get your page rank quite a bit
*up
forcefollow: yeah, I don't know how to start on that kinda stuff.  I've just started some stuff with freebsdvps.com (one of my domains), and in a week I got it on the first page google results for "freebsd vps" (albeit on the bottom)
forcefollow: BTW, for more about the company and me, I've explained it here: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2009-08-12,Wed&sel=50#l46
i'm really glad I decided to log this room... ;)
having an irc channel was one of the reasons i decided to try it out
awesome, I was hoping it'd have that effect as well ;)
but ya know, regarding OpenBSD, I don't know how much of a market there is for it.  I love it for my routers, but I don't get many requests for it as a VM.  FreeBSD trumps there of course.  And Linux beats FreeBSD in market, but since I don't push my Linux VMs much, I get more FreeBSD orders
i might get you to change me over to freebsd, i have a lot more experience with it but lately ive been trying some new stuff
im really bored with what i know right now (php/linux/etc etc)
haha
yeah
but if all goes well i might move my work stuff over also
we currently have 3 servers with slicehost
that'd be great :)
forcefollow: what distro do you use at slicehost?
fedora
ugh, that's one I don't do (I never had a Red Hat based distro not get hacked _eventually_)
yeah thats why i was looking into *bsd, security
there was a remote bind exploit about a month ago and it scared me
i've been upgrading my kernels like mad b/c of recent Linux exploits
lame isnt it?
yeah
not that FreeBSD is all that much better.  Stock 7.1 had a local priv escalation to root bug
eek
everything has bugs
;)
i havent used freebsd since about 4.x
indeed, i had to fix a few today in my own code
My first sys admin job was working with FreeBSD 1.x boxes ;)
I remember when I upgraded them to 2
wow
old school =)
haha yeah
im thinking about trying out lighttpd too
ah, i've used that some in the past
works pretty good, pretty fast
im also getting interested in python and maybe scala (it looks neat)
i know a lot of python guys
i spent a couple weeks playing with it and when i had to go back to php i missed it
the most I ever did with Python was getting the [FBI] bot (irclogger) to talk SSL
yeah, php is my last choice of a language
i used to do it a lot, but no longer, there are way better ways to make web apps these days
what do you preferr now?
Rails and Sinatra
ahh im a big zend framework fan
ah
bigs: did u guys actually compile a new kernel on your VM?
django is sexy for doing quick CRUD
never worked with django
:p
yeah limited length nicks.
stubborn ol efnet