[00:29] <up_the_irons> ballen: ptr, yes of course
[00:30] <ballen> coolio
[00:30] <ballen> http://208.79.89.202:3000/
[00:30] <ballen> just got it moved to ruby 1.9 and Rails 2.3
[00:30] <ballen> just a pain in the ass
[00:30] <ballen> such*
[00:31] <up_the_irons> i bet
[00:32] <up_the_irons> my friend Mark and I are trying to get pledgie.com onto Rails 2.3, and it is proving to be a true pain
[00:32] <ballen> yep
[00:33] <ballen> the more monkey patching and crazy out of the ordinary stuff you do, the harder it is going to be to upgrade
[00:34] <up_the_irons> yeah, we hardly monkey patch at all, i dont believe in it; but some of the plugins we use do
[00:35] <ballen> yea sometimes, not as much now a days, ya just have to
[00:36] <up_the_irons> yeah
[01:00] <up_the_irons> syminet: yeah, thought you would like Annex.  did you get the full tour (like he showed you all the floors?)
[01:08] <up_the_irons> syminet: and no problem on the 5 megs, hit me up any time you're ready
[01:09] <ballen> time for me to pass out for the night, later
[01:09] <up_the_irons> g'night
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[01:32] <syminet> I know *exactly* what syminet should do, but things like power outages bring me back - in a big way.
[01:33] <up_the_irons> syminet: yeah
[01:34] <up_the_irons> syminet: i'm surprised it took u this long, but i suppose you didn't see any other good alternatives at the time
[01:40] <syminet> But why was it that whne we moved them back over... my breaker was popped too?
[01:58] <syminet> Agreed.
[02:06] <syminet> for a managed switch
[02:22] <syminet> :-)
[02:27] <syminet> hahaah amen to that.  ;-)  Something happened, I think it was their router upstairs?  brb
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[06:05] <mike-burns> ballen|away: Regarding Rails 2.3, this is what we ran into: http://robots.thoughtbot.com/post/159805595/rails-2-3-2-upgrade-gotchas
[06:05] <mike-burns> ballen|away: Make sure to upgrade to 2.3-stable instead of 2.3.0.
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[08:38] <ballen> mike-burns: Yea moved to rails 2.3.3
[08:38] <mike-burns> Word.
[08:42] <ballen> was farely decent, I hade some monkey patching on attachment_fu that was broken
[08:42] <ballen> had*
[08:43] <mike-burns> Yeah attachment_fu is a pain.
[08:43] <mike-burns> I recommend Paperclip for the obvious reasons.
[08:43] <ballen> yea, using swfupload with it
[08:43] <mike-burns> Cool.
[08:44] <ballen> http://thewebfellas.com/blog/2008/12/22/flash-uploaders-rails-cookie-based-sessions-and-csrf-rack-middleware-to-the-rescue
[08:44] <ballen> if you ever have to use flash and maintain auth and cross-site forgery
[08:45] <mike-burns> Hmmm, I was just using Flash for file uploads and needed to maintain auth and cross-site protection ...
[08:45] <ballen> I can attest that that method works quite well
[08:46] <ballen> I just threw the class in the lib folder tough
[08:46] <mike-burns> Sure, there's no better or worse place for it.
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[16:04] <ballen> urg greylisting makes testing my smtp server such a pain in the ass
[16:06] <mhoran> Sure does.
[16:06] <mhoran> ... spammers make my life miserable.
[16:11] <ballen> yeep
[16:16] <ballen> hmm what should I run first rbl_client to spamhaus or postgrey
[16:17] <ballen> if I do postgrey first should be less queries to spamhaus
[16:18] <mhoran> But spamhaus may prevent wasted time on postgrey.
[16:18] <mhoran> Run the DNS checks, then greylist.t
[16:18] <ballen> yea but greylist isn't really adding any more traffic to my server
[16:23] <ballen> also, if you greylist first, you give spamhaus a little more time to catch the spammer
[16:23] <mhoran> Perhaps!
[16:23] <mhoran> Yeah, I guess it will slow down legit mail either way ...
[16:23] <mhoran> I just ue SpamAssassin.
[16:23] <ballen> yep
[17:57] <syminet> I use spamassassin + optional spamhaus rbl
[17:57] <syminet> hate barracuda, due to their lack of criteria
[18:14] <ballen> any idea how to convert texttile to markdown?
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