Nat_UB: did ya try to upgrade your VM to -p3? It's a party over in #haskell though! Arguing thread safety and file handles! LOL hahaha I'd discuss some admin-ish things but I'm not very good at that. I usually trade mhoran programming help in exchange for unix help. irons: I haven't tried...scared to :) Nat_UB: haha ok I'll try it in a little bit...let ya know :) up to you, no rush :) long ass day at work....ready for a shot rebooting...so far so good oh nice back up....appears ok yeah, i haven't had any problems with the amd64 version of 7.2 disappointed that i386 has that weird ffs_valloc prob 7.1 worked on both arch's without probs haven't toyed much with 64-bit except on winblows...so good experience cool Nat_UB: so what does 'uname -a' show now? Qsource: what's shakin' irons: Good thread on WHT Nat_BD: which?