just a quick note arpnetworks.com returns HTTP 500 for page not found > wget -O /dev/null http://www.arpnetworks.com/100mb.bin > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error yeah mhoran looks better now for me Yeah. something borked for a bit there? what the heck is this http://paste.debian.net/1080143/ acf_: something did yes should be good now are you experiencing any issues still? afaict we're good now if something was still broken you'd have a pastebin link ;) heh i got kicked again mhoran: when you said only 1 server is inaccessible, was that server on the same subnet as a "good" one? Oddly enough, yeah. I could get to matthoran.com but not blog.matthoran.com But apparently even matthoran.com was inaccessible, according to the alerts. But I loaded it on my phone. Blog didn't load. traffic coming in the backup router seemed to stop working and was being hashed across both links it seems I find it very weird that one IP worked and one didn't mhoran it was a bit confusing, as some stuff worked some didn't, some half worked and we were only doing stuff not directly related to that Yeah me too! also the backup router could reach the IPs having issues fine. Is learning how to install and run mailman a worthwhile effort in this day and age? you could say anything is worthwhile related, does anyone know of a good mail daemon for 2019? I feel like they're all straight out of the '90s I still use postfix (+dovecot). yeah same although I really just use gmail these days postfix is definitely in the "from the '90s" category though (imo) also have to use spamassassin so my inbox doesn't explode it works... ok It's definitely more modern than sendmail, and is getting new features all the time I've never had an issue I use MailRoute in front of my server for spam filtering. They do a good job. But I've heard good things about rspamd iirc More modern than sendmailâ„¢ I agree it's not bad, but it's quickly falling behind all of the hosted solutions Eh. I'm happy using mutt. And I don't much trust Google i still use postfix too i use amavisd-new still i haven't touched any postfix features in forever i mean i'm not using anything new i think i chagned somethign with amavis's spamassassin config a few years back main.cf from apr last year not sure what changed though i still use mutt too, and locally on my mail server it does give faster mail