Huh, really, 7am? I asked Google and it said 5:55am. NZST is UTC+12 and I'm UTC-7 so according to my math too, it would've been about 6am. (Then again, why am I doubting what time you say it was other than I'm confused) Well I hope ksthomas' issue was resolved, regardless of time. oh hangon ytou're right i dunno how i screwed that up i have rounded up time twice i'm +12 now yeh oh i think i read it at 7 am lol Well thanks for putting my mind at ease, mercutio The American dude can tell what time it is in NZ, better than the NZ dude? heh i was half sleep when i read his message and somehow ascribed the time i read it rather than the timestamp on the message.