up_the_irons: re the nested openbsd vm stuff on thunder what os / kvm version is being used on thunder? qbit: Pretty sure it's Ubuntu, dunno release+version though. Linux barfs this in its dmesg though, probably indicates a version. (From a Thunder instance) [ 0.000000] DMI: QEMU Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996), BIOS Ubuntu-1.8.2-1ubuntu1.1 04/01/2014 qbit: 1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.14 OS is Ubuntu 16.04 sweet ty np