[06:34] *** awyeah-afk is now known as awyeah [08:59] *** mkb has joined #arpnetworks [09:36] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:55] *** Nahual has joined #arpnetworks [11:05] *** mkb has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [12:18] *** mkb has joined #arpnetworks [15:32] how often would you say arp restarts your machines without warning ? [15:34] i was thinking it's been a while with my current vps and lo and behold this weekend they did it again [15:36] Never. [15:36] Maybe once. [15:36] In ... a lot of years. [15:37] really? how long have you been with them? [15:37] 2009? [15:38] 4/5/2010. [15:38] and only once or only once you noticed? [15:38] I've had the os outright crash more often [15:38] Well I'd typically notice because my weechat would be disconnect. [15:38] ed [15:39] even scheduled reboots are rare [15:39] I suppose with thunder it'll be even more rare [15:39] Yeah I'm definitely thinking of upgrading. [15:39] one of my arp VMs: 15:42:01 up 219 days, 13:53, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 [15:40] how often are those? [15:40] and what's thunder? [15:40] I can't remember the last time. [15:40] like once or twice in the five years or so I've been here [15:40] Yeah. [15:40] Thunder is a semi-dedicated solution (dedicated cores, RAM) with dedicated storage. [15:41] Ceph cluster so your VM can be moved around to other hardware during maintenance. [15:56] Yeah, very infrequent. The kvm host process randomly died on me once... Not ARP's fault, just a program that crashed. [15:58] *** mkb has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:20] karstensrage: it may be kernel oddity? [16:21] even if kvm crashes, chances are that it's due to some virtio bug or such... [16:21] and given that there aren't widespread crashes, maybe it's an uncommon kernel or OS or such [16:23] I joined just after mhoran did (or was it before?), and same experience: can't remember the last reboot that wasn't an OS crash or me upgrading. [16:23] *** awyeah has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [16:24] You totally copied me. But I think you came along because I shut down the dedicated server we were using [16:25] Yeah that seems right. Thanks for finding this service, BTW. [16:32] Yeah! [16:33] *** awyeah has joined #arpnetworks [16:43] *** awyeah has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [16:43] *** awyeah has joined #arpnetworks [18:20] karstensrage: To add to the data points, I did have my system rebooted once but I was notified as it was a support related issue and performance of the VM. [18:46] *** mkb has joined #arpnetworks [19:30] *** nathani has joined #arpnetworks [19:53] . [21:10] *** Nahual has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:25] *** mkb has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [22:11] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [22:13] *** abthorpet has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [22:36] my beef is there is nothing i can do. i need my machines up and i can't have them rebooted out from under me. [22:37] like could you wait until monday ? [22:38] lol [22:38] you're probably better off with a dedicated, bare metal machine [22:38] that way you're only taken out by equipment failures [22:40] who deals with those ? [22:42] the support staff [22:48] how often are equipment failures [22:54] you'd have to ask them. most of the folks here are just customers or freenode users. [22:54] i've been very happy with my services. [22:54] and i suspect most people here will say the same. [22:55] no service can guarantee you 100% uptime.