***: toeshred has joined #arpnetworks
awyeah has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
awyeah has joined #arpnetworks
hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks
awyeah has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
awyeah has joined #arpnetworks
mkb_ has joined #arpnetworks
mkb has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
mkb_ is now known as mkb
mkb_ has joined #arpnetworks
mkb has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
mkb_ is now known as mkb
milki_ is now known as milki
JC_Denton has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
trobotham has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
_iwc has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
sjackso has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
JC_Denton has joined #arpnetworks
trobotham has joined #arpnetworks
_iwc has joined #arpnetworks
sjackso has joined #arpnetworks
RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: so - was that a power outage this morning? brycec: RandalSchwartz: outage? where? My ARP VPS and dedicated boxes are up and running uninterrupted. RandalSchwartz: both neil's machines and my machine had a reboot around 4am mrsaint_: ups/diesel? ***: mrsaint_ is now known as mrsaint
nesta has joined #arpnetworks
nesta has quit IRC (Client Quit) gizmoguy: mercutio: https://mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?i=347191#{%22issue_id%22:347191,%22numpages%22:1,%22page%22:1}
sorry for the horrible URL. but BBR is published now mercutio: wow gizmoguy: as well as faucet which is what I work on mercutio: i keep checking acm queue
it was quite recently i chcekde it last
did it just come out today? :) gizmoguy: someone from google just emailed me 1 min ago
so I suspect it went live in the past few hours
actually I'll see if I can find a PDF mercutio: says end of preview gizmoguy: yeah I'm getting that too
hrm. it's not published to dl.acm.org yet :(
and my dl.acm.org membership isnt working on mydigitalpublication.com mercutio: maybe it takes a little while extra
is acm queue in general good? gizmoguy: I'm not sure about queue ***: dne has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) brycec: "Uptime: 83 days, 19:17:30" that's my dedi. No idea why your machines rebooted, RandalSchwartz, sorry. ***: dne has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: unlucky rack, maybe, except that neil's machines got booted too up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: We sent maintenance notices 2 weeks ago, with a reminder 1 week ago, about this RandalSchwartz: ok... probably read it while half asleep then. :) up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: Oh and if one of your VM's is on kvr05 (I think it is), we *did* have an unexpected reboot there. I'm sending an Outage Report today. Was too exhausted last night to do so (we had a crazy issue on another unrelated server, that was critical)
I think the kvr05 issues was the stupid watchdog 497 days bug, b/c that was about the uptime of kvr05 RandalSchwartz: yeah, I think I'm on 05
I think one of neil's is also on 05. up_the_irons: yeah RandalSchwartz: mabel
since mabel is his oldest up_the_irons: nah, mabel is on kvr07 RandalSchwartz: ok up_the_irons: which we migrated last night
kvr07 is going away RandalSchwartz: ahh
is there a quick way to see which machine I'm in? up_the_irons: kvr05 will go away too, but that'll be at least a couple weeks away
Look at the "VNC Host" of your machine, in the Portal
that's the machine you're on RandalSchwartz: ahh up_the_irons: I can confirm one of your VM's is on kvr05, I see it now ;) RandalSchwartz: hmm. I don't see "VNC Host" anywhere on my portal. up_the_irons: oh wow RandalSchwartz: or do you mean something besides the website
like the thing I get on ssh? up_the_irons: nah it's there
i'm logged in as you
I'll PM you what I see awyeah: ahh, i'm on kct03 now, nice, i wonder if the machine will be faster mercutio: awyeah, does it feel faster? awyeah: lol
no clue. mercutio: i usually use installing packages on ubuntu to test performance heh
but other than that it's really if it feels sluggish or not ***: forgotten has joined #arpnetworks brycec: Technically it's "VNC Server" (not Host) :P https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvvz25mtjd6pddt/screenshot_2016-10-18_16-11-58.png?dl=0 BryceBot: Dropbox photo: "https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvvz25mtjd6pddt/screenshot_2016-10-18_16-11-58.png?dl=0" mrsaint: cheeers :) mkb: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/309361-30-american-mega-trends-coming-start
second result for googling 'american megetrends'
I don't know what I expected... mercutio: haha what
coreboot or whatever it's called these days never seemed to end up supporting many motherboards
but all those bios things are pretty clumsy
i'm not sure if coreboot got forked or what with their fsf disbanding and infighting and so on mkb: I haven't been able to figure that out
they removed all the firmware blobs
someone told me that and I said "you need those to make the hardware work" mercutio: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Boot-Guard-Kills-Coreboot
hmm
that is a point, my chromebook has coreboto mkb: I might have to stay on this thinkpad x220 forever mercutio: when i used to use DOS i wondered why no-one made a bios that had fast text i/o etc
like it's faster if you write to screen memory directly than use bios. but by way more than it shoudl be. mkb: int 0x10 ah = 0x0e teletype output mercutio: which meant that it was normal for software to do direct screen writes rather than use bios
but until uefi, not much seemed to change with bios really mkb: which was great mercutio: and now it's complicated beyond belief
well good and bda mkb: and I still don't understand where the u came from mercutio: bad
universal i think mkb: it didn't change, it was easy enough to write a bootloader that gets past it mercutio: i think efi was intel only? mkb: yes I know what it stands for
but a decade ago I kept hearing about efi mercutio: yeh mkb: and then actual hardware using it started shipping and it was suddently called uefi mercutio: it was on old intel boards in 2006
like 5000 chipset or something mkb: except x86 macs had/have efi mercutio: s5000pal, that's an example of efi board nathani: 1792 is an interesting amount of RAM brycec up_the_irons: the x220 is a good machine mkb: 7 256MB DIMMs?
I remember looking up how to write an efi "program" and finding out you need some giant toolkit
and just giving up up_the_irons: I'm still on my T520 and I think I'll just buy another if my current one breaks lol mkb: I should look at what openbsd does; I'm sure they don't have the intel crap mercutio: https://github.com/coreboot/coreboot/tree/master/src/mainboard/lenovo/t520 mike-burns: Firmware is firmware.
OpenBSD needs it just as much as anyone else. mercutio: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY4OTQ mkb: you shouldn't need a giant "proprietary" toolkit to write a bootloader mercutio: so coreboots works on t520, but in 2014 didn't have suspend and resume
you shouldn't start in 16 bit mode either though mkb :) mkb: so much about x86 is just wrong... mercutio: uefi does have things going for it
it's just too buggy and complicated.
mkb: i kind of thought there'd be more/better arm desktops by now brycec: nathani: 1.5GB (1536MB) + 256MB nathani: Makes more sense now
Was expecting to see 2048