BTW, loving the Trello board. awyeah: we're finding it awesome as well. I have several other boards for things internal to my life. Great way to organize. Several cards were stuck at "2" votes (all tied) for a while. Then I put a link to the board on the Portal dashboard, and finally more votes came in and we have a clear winner on the next feature ("Portal: Automatic creation of new VMs") hmm who of those people in here hmm, freebsd 11 is meant to come out again today. i wonder if it'll make it this time either it'll come out, or there will be some more crazy openssl patches that suddenly appear or maybe both! they oughta shift to libressl it's been pushed back twice not sure what the other reason was this time i'd guess the reason for delay would be mirrors not being up to date (given that it doesn't seem to be on mirrors yet) this seems impractical but awesome at the same time: http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/system/4U/6048/SSG-6048R-E1CR90L.cfm That weighs more than me i find even 20kg servers can feel heavy you can probably reduce weight a bit by taking disks out up_the_irons: how strong are you feeling to rack it? :) And that's when you call for a rack lift heh that's cheating but yeah, not really practical http://gizmodo.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-during-boarding-of-a-southwest-f-1787447287?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow damn, samsung are really struggling here... so apparently the new galaxy note 7s are bad too I was flying last week and they kept making PA announcements about note 7s on the plane PAs before takeoff i would have liked a note 7 before the issues too expensive for me though :) made me realize how bad the situation was for them well it seems that problems are happening pretty frequently mercutio: not very strong; toeshred does most of our racking. He's stronger than me . ;) yeah probably want rack lift then apparently freebsd is getting delayed again all the good stuff is in 12.0 anyway ;) i.e intel accelerated graphics for any pc made in the last few years heh heh, linux is far ahead for intel video i'm getting really sick of ati support on linux even my r9 290 is slow in linux for desktop use and radeon 7750 is really slow at 4k r9 290 and radeon 7750 are similar speed in linux for 2d actually radeon 7750 is probably similar speed to onboard video FreeBSD should be in sync with Linux for intel graphics now with freebsd 12? there's some exciting stuff coming from intel and ati are kind of abandoning r9 290 and earlier it seems well -CURRENT or whatever branch they are working on https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2016-August/017840.html like they've got a new driver for r9 285 and newer which is like one newer than r9 290 and they're just adding legacy support for r9 290 etc, (that generation i think) but without accel ati have been promising good drivers for years now their open source drivers used to be better than the nvidia drivers and ati cards fell under out customs limits when nvidia didn't gtx 970 probably is ok to buy now but is only similar speed to r9 290 i think and for fanless cards there are so few options radeon 7750 is the fastest fanless card around last i knew. gddr5, multihead support etc my laptop (12 months old) has a gtx970M and it cant run with accelerated intel or nvidia graphics with what OS? freebsd doesnt properly support intel or nvidia optimus ahh with freebsd there really needs to be more separation FreBSD, i tried to get it working but its such a pain in the ass and im not running some github branch of freebsd or pc-bsd so that the kernel stuff is seprarate from the normal core, and the normal core can be cross platform yeah just use arch linux :) everything is current arch feels so hacky.. and its breaks lots i haven't had breakage in years i've had more breakage with ubuntu than any other os haha i can wait ~6months for a stable version of whatever package they're shipping why does ubuntu have a default where if you reboot part way through the bootup it'll get stuck on the boot menu i've had the most stability with openbsd of any OS :) depends if you also want functionality heh ms-dos 6.22 was pretty stable too i didn't find dos stable one application could kill the whole system so no different than today then? i found os/2 stable though but then i was using desqview on DOS :) i actually have no idea what dos version i used heh, X is pretty bad like that oh desqview desqview and qemm brings back memories yup and BBS' and doors and trying to get as much conventional memory as possible and finding alternative tsr's to reduce memory heh, yeah moving my bbs to os/2 was awesome i could use a debugger haha yeah it used to be that if you pressed ctrl-break in turbo pascal it would crash the pc That's what she said!! hahaha