[05:57] *** Nahual has joined #arpnetworks [07:38] *** dne has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [07:39] *** dne has joined #arpnetworks [07:42] *** carvite has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [07:44] *** carvite has joined #arpnetworks [07:55] BTW, loving the Trello board. [11:57] *** Nahual has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [12:56] *** Nahual has joined #arpnetworks [13:15] awyeah: we're finding it awesome as well. I have several other boards for things internal to my life. Great way to organize. [13:18] Several cards were stuck at "2" votes (all tied) for a while. Then I put a link to the board on the Portal dashboard, and finally more votes came in and we have a clear winner on the next feature ("Portal: Automatic creation of new VMs") [13:57] hmm who of those people in here [14:02] hmm, freebsd 11 is meant to come out again today. i wonder if it'll make it this time [14:03] either it'll come out, or there will be some more crazy openssl patches that suddenly appear [14:03] or maybe both! [14:06] they oughta shift to libressl [14:06] it's been pushed back twice [14:06] not sure what the other reason was [14:07] this time i'd guess the reason for delay would be mirrors not being up to date [14:07] (given that it doesn't seem to be on mirrors yet) [14:15] this seems impractical but awesome at the same time: http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/system/4U/6048/SSG-6048R-E1CR90L.cfm [14:17] That weighs more than me [14:21] i find even 20kg servers can feel heavy [14:21] *** Nahual has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [14:21] * mercutio is heavier than net weight, but less than gross weight [14:22] you can probably reduce weight a bit by taking disks out [14:23] up_the_irons: how strong are you feeling to rack it? :) [14:53] And that's when you call for a rack lift [15:01] heh [15:01] that's cheating [15:01] but yeah, not really practical [15:18] http://gizmodo.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-during-boarding-of-a-southwest-f-1787447287?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow [15:18] damn, samsung are really struggling here... [15:18] so apparently the new galaxy note 7s are bad too [15:33] I was flying last week and they kept making PA announcements about note 7s on the plane PAs before takeoff [15:34] i would have liked a note 7 before the issues [15:34] too expensive for me though :) [15:34] made me realize how bad the situation was for them [15:34] well it seems that problems are happening pretty frequently [16:57] mercutio: not very strong; toeshred does most of our racking. He's stronger than me . ;) [16:57] yeah probably want rack lift then [17:11] apparently freebsd is getting delayed again [17:34] all the good stuff is in 12.0 anyway ;) [17:34] i.e intel accelerated graphics for any pc made in the last few years heh [17:35] heh, linux is far ahead for intel video [17:35] i'm getting really sick of ati support on linux [17:35] even my r9 290 is slow in linux for desktop use [17:36] and radeon 7750 is really slow at 4k [17:36] r9 290 and radeon 7750 are similar speed in linux for 2d actually [17:36] radeon 7750 is probably similar speed to onboard video [17:45] FreeBSD should be in sync with Linux for intel graphics now [17:46] with freebsd 12? [17:46] there's some exciting stuff coming from intel [17:46] and ati are kind of abandoning r9 290 and earlier it seems [17:46] well -CURRENT or whatever branch they are working on [17:46] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2016-August/017840.html [17:46] like they've got a new driver for r9 285 and newer [17:46] which is like one newer than r9 290 [17:47] and they're just adding legacy support for r9 290 etc, (that generation i think) but without accel [17:47] ati have been promising good drivers for years now [17:47] their open source drivers used to be better than the nvidia drivers [17:47] and ati cards fell under out customs limits [17:48] when nvidia didn't [17:48] gtx 970 probably is ok to buy now [17:48] but is only similar speed to r9 290 i think [17:48] and for fanless cards there are so few options [17:49] radeon 7750 is the fastest fanless card around last i knew. gddr5, multihead support etc [17:49] my laptop (12 months old) has a gtx970M and it cant run with accelerated intel or nvidia graphics [17:49] with what OS? [17:49] freebsd doesnt properly support intel or nvidia optimus [17:49] ahh with freebsd [17:49] there really needs to be more separation [17:50] FreBSD, i tried to get it working but its such a pain in the ass and im not running some github branch of freebsd or pc-bsd [17:50] so that the kernel stuff is seprarate from the normal core, and the normal core can be cross platform [17:50] yeah [17:50] just use arch linux :) [17:50] everything is current [17:50] arch feels so hacky.. and its breaks lots [17:51] i haven't had breakage in years [17:51] i've had more breakage with ubuntu than any other os haha [17:51] i can wait ~6months for a stable version of whatever package they're shipping [17:51] why does ubuntu have a default where if you reboot part way through the bootup it'll get stuck on the boot menu [17:52] i've had the most stability with openbsd of any OS :) [17:53] depends if you also want functionality [17:53] heh [17:53] ms-dos 6.22 was pretty stable too [17:53] i didn't find dos stable [17:53] one application could kill the whole system [17:53] so no different than today then? [17:54] i found os/2 stable though [17:54] but then i was using desqview on DOS :) [17:54] i actually have no idea what dos version i used [17:55] heh, X is pretty bad like that [17:55] oh desqview [17:55] desqview and qemm [17:55] brings back memories [17:55] yup [17:56] and BBS' and doors [17:57] and trying to get as much conventional memory as possible [17:57] and finding alternative tsr's to reduce memory [17:57] heh, yeah moving my bbs to os/2 was awesome [17:57] i could use a debugger [17:58] haha yeah [17:58] it used to be that if you pressed ctrl-break in turbo pascal it would crash the pc [17:58] That's what she said!! [18:03] hahaha [18:13] *** Nahual has joined #arpnetworks [18:14] *** Nahual has left [18:14] *** Nahual has joined #arpnetworks [19:16] *** Nahual has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [23:05] *** dne has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [23:42] *** dne has joined #arpnetworks