RandalSchwartz: lol
I just thought... I find it interesting that this channel had, at its peak, about 70-80 users; it dropped down many years ago to like 50-60, but has always held strong after that.
i left and came back when there was a network issue and never left
maybe we need more network issues :)
i joined #linode for a while when they had network issues, and i wasn't even a user.  i was just curious to see how it panned out :)
(they didn't handle it well)
hahaha
there's always more people in here when there's a DDoS ;)
after being with arp, I've been finding myself wishing more tech vendors had a chill irc hangout with knowledgeable people around
but, I suppose it does not work at scale
I think more companies could do it
but they just don't
They could even try Slack
which is probably more acceptable to non-old-schoolers
We tried it and the people in the channel demanded Slack.
But the Venn diagram of (people at my company who were interested in maintaining a public chatroom) and (people at my company who were interested in yet another Slack channel) was the empty set.
heh
we slack at my shop too, and it's fine for work, but I still like irc best for general idling and breeze-shooting
Slack has too much of an upfront cost.
plus, the day that Slack goes completely down is the day that the internet comes to a grinding halt -- except for us neckbeards on irc ;)
well until Freenode netsplits
:P
haha
they're talking about slack here
they tell us it'll help the team communicate
i've noticed more and more web sites with online chat
https://twitter.com/courtneynash/status/778945495662202880
TWITTER: "Switching from Hipchat to Slack and Docker Docker Docker will not fix your culture." @beerops at #velocityconf https://t.co/TUQMecY5gQ (Thu Sep 22 13:14:12 +0000 2016, retweeted 172 times)
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but yeah group chat would be nice
i think slack is good too
We switched from Campfire to Slack. I like the ability to talk with a group, but see not value/get frustrated with the direct messages in Slack. It's not what I want in a company chat tool.
i reckon slack is more sensible for companies just wanting group chat rooms
but i'd rather something open source and self-run
triple docker?
how expensive is slack?
i use dm
https://grove.io/ - I've never tried this but it seems to be a thing.
also I hear the Slack desktop clients tend to eat up a lot of RAM
Oh, yeah. It's just a Web browser.
but here we've got a small enough group that we can just talk
like with voices and ears
No one works from home?
nope
Nice setup.
I can't imagine having to _pay attention_ to slack all day
with irc I can just close it and if somebody tries to talk to me maybe I'll see it later or maybe they'll try again later if it was important...
staticsafe: 32gb of ram is cheap now :)
heh, my windows box is using 24.3gb/31.9gb of ram
heaps of free ram still :)
but yeah everything use heaps of ram these days
yes but not everything has a tendency to leak  memory
that is the problem with Slack afaik
what's the difference in the end
it gets bloated
i dunno if chrome uses memory or leaks
but it uses a LOT of memory
even 16gb of ram for laptop is only $64 US on amazon
irssi uses 11MB
which actually seems a bit high
i bet weechat uses more
yeah
254480 virtual, 38652 resident
even grep on ps is using 1mb
16MB for me, if I'm reading top correctly. Which I'm probably not.
hah, so the sleep command on linux now takes 704kb of ram
I read the RES column in top
mike-burns: virtual first, then resident
16MB is RES.
ejabbberd is using 46mb of ram
tmux is only using 3mb of ram
it does seem things got crazy with memory usage.  but actually they've been bad for over 15 years
nsd at 30MB-ish, weechat at 16MB, nginx at 13MB, then mutt at 2MB.
tinydns at 1192kb
one of my mutts is using like 260mb
281488..
if you are running openbsd 6.0 on arp do not under any circumstances type pctr at the prompt
though admittedly the manpage says
     It is strongly advised to look through the manual for a particular
     processor before programming a counter and interpreting the results.
on the other hand I wasn't even root
did it reboot?
i have to try it now ;)
  tsc = 3698585147644942
did you set something with it?
no I just typed it to see what it would do
ahh ok
yeh it may depend on which host you're on
apparently
although warning people is kind of like having a BIG RED BUTTON SAYING DON'T PUSH ME
yep