[19:32] https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-costs-around-the-world/ [22:44] they don't split out australia and new zealand :( [22:45] I found it interesting that they manage to peer 100% in the middle east [22:45] it's a bit complicated there [22:45] ithink some of the middle east providers don't have a pop in middle east [22:45] and just push their traffic to europe [22:46] around that kind of area some traffic has terrible routes [22:46] asia<->europe etc is often much worse than it should be [22:46] to me africa at 90% is actually more interesting. [22:46] as more providers, and they seem more willing to make things better [22:47] why did they say Germany was an exception when it came to peering [22:47] and more population [22:47] i didn't notice that [22:47] europe was fine to my mind :) [22:47] oh the main provider there doesn't peer [22:48] I would really like to know what their 10 unit standard converts to $ [22:48] i think the perhaps is redundant. [22:48] hard to know :) [22:48] nda's and all [22:48] i'd like to see peering become more popular [22:49] i kind of want to see gigabit to the home [22:49] with low pings between people in the same city at least across providers. [22:49] nathani: not Germany, the incumbent in Germany, aka Deutsche Telekom AG [22:49] ala google fiber [22:49] yeah, but i want to see multiple providers with similar deals. [22:49] and if it only does 100 megabit internationally so be it [22:49] but if you can at least get gigabit to your neighbour [22:50] even though they're on a different provider, then that'd be great. [22:50] and with peering disputes etc, often performance can be rather subpar. [22:50] fIorz_: ahh skipped over the incumbent for some reason when I read that [22:51] we're starting to get fibre here. [22:51] 200 megabit down seems to be common [22:51] DTAG are known for the terrible connectivity that they offer their (DSL, mostly) customers because they don't peer openly [22:51] and it's provider agnostic for transit ec. [22:51] etc [22:52] this was also interesting: six networks represent less than 6% of the traffic but nearly 50% of our bandwidth costs. [22:53] cloudflare's getting big enough that they could consider giving worse performance to some networks... [22:53] ie stop paying for transit to the expensive ones [22:53] send from where it's cheap for them [22:53] send to DT via cogent :)