#arpnetworks/ 2016-04-12,Tue

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mercutioIs anybody here keen to test a new boot menu for vps? [02:05]
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Squillishello
should i be able to relay mail through my vps?
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antSquillis: yes [12:23]
Squillisok. i'll keep digging [12:23]
antSquillis: i.e. there are no packet filters for typical smtp ports [12:24]
Squillisthat's what i was asking
thanks
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oh, cox
Note: SMTP is only permitted outbound to Cox-provided SMTP servers.
i should have guessed
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mike-burnsRough. [12:47]
Squillisquality service from a quality company [12:48]
antSquillis: do they allow port 587 (submission)? [12:50]
Squillisit's not explicitly blocked
i was going to use another port
if postfix allows that
i figure it does
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antit does. but submission is actually meant to be used by smtp clients connecting to a relay
instead of 25
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Squillisah. i didn't know that [12:52]
mercutioyeah it's pretty lonng standing
and postfix will automatically support it these days
you can adjust stuff in master.cf if you want some alternate port or such
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anti actually support providers that block port 25 outgoing, because every legit user should use 587 [12:55]
brycecI support residential ISPs blocking 25 because of spam botnets [13:09]
antthat's what i wanted to express ;) [13:09]
brycec(It's usually paired with requiring authenticated SMTP to the ISP's own relays)
heh
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mercutioNow people spam through Gmail. [13:29]
mnathanimercutio: still need someone to test the new boot menu? [13:43]
mercutioyeh sure
mnathani: shutdown and boot your VM and you should get it
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dnewhat's new in the new boot menu? [13:48]
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mercutiodns: it always shows boot options
so you don't need to press f12
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mnathanishutting down now [14:06]
mercutiocool [14:06]
dneaha, I don't shut down very often :) [14:06]
mercutioneither do i
but i think this is a good improvement none the less
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mnathani12 second timout
could probably use like 15
[14:07]
mercutiomnathani: you can press enter or select boot option to go quicker
ahh
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dnehad to shut down the other day though - for some reason the freebsd bootloader didn't find the disk when I rebooted for an upgrade (never happened before) [14:08]
mercutiodne: 10.3?
there seems to be an issue with 10.3
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dneyup, second reboot during freebsd-update (after userland is upgraded) [14:11]
mercutiohmm
that's not good
i had issues with iso booting
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dnefirst reboot (only kernel upgraded) was fine [14:12]
mercutioso kernel didn't boot?
hmm
there was an issue with 10.1
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dnei think it got stuck at the 1st stage bootloader [14:12]
mercutiothat could be the same issue that 10.3 boot iso is having
how did you work around it?
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dneafter shutdown it booted fine again [14:13]
mercutiooh [14:13]
dnefrom the panel [14:13]
mercutiothat could be the "warm boot" kvm bug [14:13]
dneaha [14:14]
mercutiohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1329956
i found when trying to figure out why 10.3 iso isn't booting
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dneweird
this never happened before though, that I can remember
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mercutiothe 10.1 bug was different
after install it didn't umount the file system cleanly
and so you'd need to do a fsck
which is just wrong, but doesn't actually stop things working
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dneah yes, but that was a freebsd bug
https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-15:05.ufs.asc ?
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that shouldn't occur on a fresh install from the iso though [14:23]
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up_the_ironsI wonder what's a good web-based IRC gateway... [14:56]
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brycecglowing-bear.org :) (technically a web-weechat relay gateway) [15:16]
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up_the_ironslol
I was thinking more for people who don't use IRC at all. So they could still join this channel from our website or something. Not long term, but maybe to ask a question or something.
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brycecI usually point people at Freenode's own web irc gateway [15:33]
up_the_ironsah OK [15:35]
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