[02:05] Is anybody here keen to test a new boot menu for vps? [12:22] *** Squillis has joined #arpnetworks [12:22] hello [12:23] should i be able to relay mail through my vps? [12:23] Squillis: yes [12:23] ok. i'll keep digging [12:24] Squillis: i.e. there are no packet filters for typical smtp ports [12:24] that's what i was asking [12:24] thanks [12:46] oh, cox [12:46] Note: SMTP is only permitted outbound to Cox-provided SMTP servers. [12:47] i should have guessed [12:47] Rough. [12:48] quality service from a quality company [12:50] Squillis: do they allow port 587 (submission)? [12:50] it's not explicitly blocked [12:51] i was going to use another port [12:51] if postfix allows that [12:51] i figure it does [12:52] it does. but submission is actually meant to be used by smtp clients connecting to a relay [12:52] instead of 25 [12:52] ah. i didn't know that [12:52] yeah it's pretty lonng standing [12:53] and postfix will automatically support it these days [12:53] you can adjust stuff in master.cf if you want some alternate port or such [12:55] i actually support providers that block port 25 outgoing, because every legit user should use 587 [13:09] I support residential ISPs blocking 25 because of spam botnets [13:09] that's what i wanted to express ;) [13:09] (It's usually paired with requiring authenticated SMTP to the ISP's own relays) [13:09] heh [13:29] Now people spam through Gmail. [13:43] mercutio: still need someone to test the new boot menu? [13:43] yeh sure [13:45] mnathani: shutdown and boot your VM and you should get it [13:48] what's new in the new boot menu? [14:04] dns: it always shows boot options [14:05] so you don't need to press f12 [14:06] *** nathani has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.3) [14:06] shutting down now [14:06] cool [14:06] aha, I don't shut down very often :) [14:07] neither do i [14:07] but i think this is a good improvement none the less [14:07] 12 second timout [14:07] could probably use like 15 [14:07] mnathani: you can press enter or select boot option to go quicker [14:07] ahh [14:08] had to shut down the other day though - for some reason the freebsd bootloader didn't find the disk when I rebooted for an upgrade (never happened before) [14:10] dne: 10.3? [14:11] there seems to be an issue with 10.3 [14:11] yup, second reboot during freebsd-update (after userland is upgraded) [14:11] hmm [14:12] that's not good [14:12] i had issues with iso booting [14:12] first reboot (only kernel upgraded) was fine [14:12] so kernel didn't boot? [14:12] hmm [14:12] there was an issue with 10.1 [14:12] i think it got stuck at the 1st stage bootloader [14:13] that could be the same issue that 10.3 boot iso is having [14:13] how did you work around it? [14:13] after shutdown it booted fine again [14:13] oh [14:13] from the panel [14:13] that could be the "warm boot" kvm bug [14:14] aha [14:14] https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1329956 [14:14] i found when trying to figure out why 10.3 iso isn't booting [14:16] weird [14:16] this never happened before though, that I can remember [14:16] the 10.1 bug was different [14:17] after install it didn't umount the file system cleanly [14:17] and so you'd need to do a fsck [14:17] which is just wrong, but doesn't actually stop things working [14:17] ah yes, but that was a freebsd bug [14:18] https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-15:05.ufs.asc ? [14:23] that shouldn't occur on a fresh install from the iso though [14:56] I wonder what's a good web-based IRC gateway... [15:05] *** [sean] has left [15:16] glowing-bear.org :) (technically a web-weechat relay gateway) [15:31] lol [15:32] I was thinking more for people who don't use IRC at all. So they could still join this channel from our website or something. Not long term, but maybe to ask a question or something. [15:33] I usually point people at Freenode's own web irc gateway [15:35] ah OK [18:34] *** nathani has joined #arpnetworks [18:55] *** erratic has quit IRC (Quit: All good things must come to an end) [19:22] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [20:02] *** erratic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [21:02] *** mnathani has quit IRC () [23:55] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks