@weather auckland Auckland, New Zealand: Partly Cloudy ☁ 79°F (26°C), Humidity: 80%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-36.973896,174.878021 or re-request this with: @weather -v auckland quiet down over there. it says 26c but in here it's 32 or 33c It's a warm 0°C here! as opposed to a cold 0c? well i suppose it depends how much wind you have Indeed: it was -20, and now it's warmed up to 0. oh i see I wore shorts today in celebration. oh wow when i was a kid i lived somewhere that got to 0c well below a little and we had to wear shorts to school when kids. That's fun. now it gets to 13c and i think it's cold :) i've never really minded cold legs though it's cold hands that get to me Oh yeah; I wore gloves today with my shorts. especially with rain and wind and it goes all numb and then you go into a warmer room and it's like tingling haha so when you go outside and it's -20c how much colder does it feel than 0c? About 20. I kid. It's hard to say. subjectively ahh i've only really been in environments a few c negative. I feel like I can't tell the difference between -5 and -20 -- it's all really cold. but after cold it didn't really feel much colder just cold Yeah exactly. whereas hot i seem to feel every c Not sure about -40 though. I hear that is unbearably cold. -40C means you can't leave anything exposed Yeah exactly. people who seem to go to antarctica all seem to wear shorts in winter i've noticed i don't know if it's preparing themselves for such, or if they just don't mind the cold so much I went camping in -20 the other weekend and I spent the rest of the week without a jacket because I had adjusted to the cold so quickly. there seems to be quite a bias with the kinds of people who want to go somewhere like antarctica though Heh yes. I can recommend the film _Meru_ if you want to watch insane people in the cold. that could be interesting http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/DC2005/20050911_1_InShorts.jpg haha what! That's ... rather cold. i wonder how long the human body can thermoregulate at those temps I wonder how much alcohol was involved in that picture. heh it's certaintly not hard to find pictures of people wearing shorts in antarctica according to wikipedia, alcohol intoxication is a common cause of hypothermia Ha! haha Alcohol consumption increases the risk of hypothermia by its action as a vasodilator. It increases blood flow to the skin and extremities, making a person feel warm, while increasing heat loss.[31] Between 33% and 73% of hypothermia cases are complicated by alcohol so yeah you feel warm but you are actually losing heat isn't that ironic That's how they get ya. not really surprising though alcohol feels like a buzz in it's warmth oh, so if you drink alcohol in the sun does that mean it cools you too? well assuming adequete water Yes, people who drink in the sun always drink the appropriate amount of water. heh mercutio: In fact, it's so easy to find photos of people in shorts in Antarctica, here's one of me doing just that :) https://www.flickr.com/photos/plett/16271150585/in/album-72157649856524617/ plett: oh wow you've been there That's what she said!! do you wear shorts in winter normally? No. And that was the only occasion I wore shorts on that trip is it some kind of initiation thing? :) That was taken inside an active volcano in Antarctica on Christmas Day 2014. The water is heated by the ground, so shallow bits like that are quite nice to stand in ahh so kind of cheating? :) still i can't imagine the ambient temperature is that warm Very much cheating. This was a more typical set of clothes: https://www.flickr.com/photos/plett/16271154815/in/album-72157649856524617/ did your ears get cold? Not with a hat on :) But there were days when it was warm enough to wander around on the deck of the boat in a short-sleeved shirt https://www.flickr.com/photos/plett/16269358141/in/album-72157649856524617/ So long as you stayed in the sun - if you went into a shaded bit, you realised how cold the air actually was! generally does anyone know how long a arpnetworks vps takes to provision? until morning almost certainly it's not an automated thing thanks mkb Not in that much in a hurry, but just was wondering. thanks again