***: [FBI] has joined #arpnetworks mnathani_: @weather auc BryceBot: Santiago Perez, Colombia: 74°F (23°C), Humidity: 96%, Wind: From the West at 2 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=7.06944418,-70.73805237 or re-request this with: @weather -v auc mnathani_: @weather akl BryceBot: Auckland International, New Zealand: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 55°F (13°C), Humidity: 82%, Wind: From the South at 6 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl mnathani_: there we go mercutio: it's kind of chilly brycec: 01:15:07 | WeeChat 1.3 [compiled on Aug 16 2015 09:43:05]
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And thanks to the magic of /upgrade: 01:16:12 | WeeChat uptime: 92 days 11:29:03, started on Fri, 15 May 2015 13:47:09 mercutio: what's it change? grody: mercutio, already have a load of addresses off my ISP
a /29, /29, a few /30's and /32's and the /48 of 6 mercutio: ahh did you just get another block? grody: err, /28 & /29 mercutio: wow grody: nah, i cant justify more IPs mercutio: are you wasting network/broadcast addresses? grody: only on the /28 mercutio: how much are you paying per IP? grody: atm, nothing extra mercutio: wow grody: but i suspect they may soon start charging mercutio: so you've got like a /27 worth total grody: something like that yea
not contiguous though mercutio: yeah
you could apply for a /23 or /24 probably grody: oh wait.. a /30 and /28 are used as broadcast nets mercutio: and get your own IP space
it'll only go up in volume grody: haha mercutio: err in value
there's final allocation on APNIC and you can still get /22
for new businesses etc
dunno what RIPE is doing grody: i dont see that happening mercutio: wtf grody: NAT has recouped about 13 addresses in all mercutio: you have to be a LIR grody: sounds right mercutio: yeah sounds complciated grody: IPv6 is everywhere and since now i can even go IPv6 on mobile phone on 3/4G - moving some hosts into a dedi NAT net was only logical
just glad i have plenty of IPv6 - think i've got 9 active /64's
8 mercutio: i can't tell how much it csots
but some thing to sign up to costs 2000 euros
so whatever it is it's probably not cheap grody: yea, to be an LIR there is a yearly cost of a couple of grand iirc mercutio: i dunno if NCC and LIR are the same grody: plett will know :P mercutio: they make it sound complicated grody: probably to stop any tom, dick & harry from going mad mercutio: i dunno i think it should be encouraged to have own IP space
even with the IPv6 migration coming
you never know, there may be better systems in the future grody: with tunnels being so easy and seemless, i find it easier just to get services from places like my ISP, ARP & others that will chuck small blocks (even at extra cost) and just "relocate" them mercutio: and costs may come down a little
but then your ip changes all the time
i think it's better to just advertise a subnet grody: well, if you have dynamic - all hosters i use are static
session between my pfsense @ home with my ARP has stayed true for 21 days now
the OVH has dropped 6 times in two weeks, but thats because of some stupid french network issues mercutio: well either you use the ip address of the space you're going to
and that's static, but you dynamically go to different ones
or you dynamically shift between different ones
which means it ends up being like dynamic ip regardless
multihoming should be encouraged :) grody: http://imgur.com/3TYdfxB
thats my pocket 3G router running openwrt - use an L2TP to my ISP, bypass cariers double NAT, gets IPv6 and static port map NAT for 4
well... how i have the hosts on VPN can be both client and gateway - i could route all my traffic via my ARP or OVH, NAT from one of their IPs - which does play havock with some things as you end up having 3/4 source IPs
it'd be a perfect scenario for a single NAT IP @home
pfSense on single NAT - openvpn bridge into a few other VPS running pfSense, use their gateways as a round-robin NAT, changing your source location on each new connection mercutio: that sounds complicated. grody: fun though
it was joining my ISP that got me really experimenting with networking
realising i can build a network that effectively becomes an extention of the internet, not some hidden private behind a gateway mercutio: i'm being a little wasteful atm
i have /29 and two /32s. grody: im wasteful with my ARP - have the net/bcast used
but then, im only using 3 of the 5 available
keep meaning to email support to get the /48 routed to me - want to see if i can send DHCP6/RADVD from ARP to a network @home
probably be easier to get a /32, have the /29 routed as it, then i could alias them as /32's
s/as it/through it/ BryceBot: <grody> probably be easier to get a /32, have the /29 routed through it, then i could alias them as /32's ***: mike-bur1 is now known as mike-burns grody: http://imgur.com/3OvzH6n - curious i dont see the packet loss between my ARP and @home that i do when my ARP pings the gateway address | http://imgur.com/Q5wzUR7
although the latter registers more
err, former mercutio: grody: that's normal isn't it?
i mean loss isn't necessarily the same to end point and first hop[ gizmoguy: mercutio: is new synergy any good for you?
still crashes every few hours for me :/ staticsafe: new synergy is fine for me, no more SSL issues or odd CPU usage
(Windows) mercutio: gizmoguy: it's worse. gizmoguy: staticsafe: linux/linux here
yeah I think I agree mercutio :( JC_Denton: how are you all using synergy?
i feel out of date; i'm still using one monitor at home :( gizmoguy: I have 2 computers on my desk. 3 monitors brycec: laptop + desktop mercutio: dual deskstops
haha
freudian slip BryceBot: That's what she said!! gizmoguy: dual desktops here too :P mercutio: damnit i'm caring about 9 cents brycec: (In the past, I've done it with numerous desktops, monitors above and below, and stretching several wide, but I just don't need that nowadays.) mercutio: for some reason tax calculator figures out 9 cents more tax refund i'm entitled to :(
ahh just bank interest screwed up the awk :)
synergy is cool
i just wish it was stable and didn't use so much cpu
but now it's gone non-free i think it will only go worse JC_Denton: i really want to get a bigger desk, but then the furniture won't match brycec: Holy crap, you weren't kidding mercutio: jc: i have way too many desks.
brycec: about the non-free? brycec: Since that guy (forget his name) took over, it's gone way downhill mercutio: yeah it needs another fork brycec: He's threatened charging before, but I don't pay attention gizmoguy: Nick I think?
Nick bolton or something
I donated back when it was FOSS
to help them out
then they used that to rent an SFO office and hire people >.> mercutio: yeh it seems pretty crazy gizmoguy: and they still only manage a release every 2 months and like 4/5 bugfixes per release brycec: And he's doing no software testing, instead pawning that off on people who *pay* to be beta testers staticsafe: yeah thats the part that actually bothers me