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jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: @weather Waterloo, Ontario BryceBot: Multiple locations matched your query: Waterloo, AL (zmw:35677.1.99999), Waterloo, BE (zmw:00000.25.06447), Waterloo, IL (zmw:62298.1.99999), Waterloo, IN (zmw:46793.1.99999), Waterloo, IA (zmw:50701.1.99999), Waterloo, NE (zmw:68069.1.99999), Waterloo, NY (zmw:13165.1.99999), Waterloo, OH (zmw:45688.1.99999), Waterloo, OR (zmw:97355.2.99999), Waterloo, QC, CA (zmw:00000.12.WCMGB), Waterloo, SL (zmw:00000.20.61856), Waterloo, SC (zmw:29384.1.9999 mnathani: @weather ykf BryceBot: Kitchener-Waterloo Regional, Ontario: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 79°F (26°C), Humidity: 61%, Wind: From the WSW at 14 MPH Gusting to 21 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.46163177,-80.38565826 or re-request this with: @weather -v ykf mercutio: has anyone played with multipath tcp yet? brycec: FreeBSD 10.2 was just released. Bets on how many years until RandalSchwartz is running it? :D
@last RandalSchwartz BryceBot: brycec, I last saw RandalSchwartz 1 days 9 hours 50 min 35 sec ago quitting: Ping timeout: 244 seconds. brycec: @lastm RandalSchwartz BryceBot: The last thing RandalSchwartz said was on Jul 28, 2015 19:31:50, 2 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 24 minutes, 3 seconds ago, "back again." brycec: lol -: JC_Denton yawns JC_Denton: i badly want a freenas mini brycec: But it only holds 4 drives mercutio: i still dunno if i trust freebsd 10 brycec: What about it do you distrust? I've been running 10 without issue (except for one ZFS bug, argh)
(Now to determine if https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/10/sys/vm/vm_pageout.c?r1=272221&r2=272875&pathrev=272875 made it into 10.2... mercutio: it seemed a bit rushed, and there's that reboot bug
the non-syncing one or whatever brycec: ^^ That's the fix to my bug, one that causes the machine to freeze up in strange ways when caching to SD mercutio: it maybe mostly fine brycec: Looks like yes, my fix is in 10.2 o/ -: brycec eagerly plans an upgrade mercutio: it sounded like it was a week out brycec: And yet here they are, ready for fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/10.2/ mercutio: heh
http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/10.2/
they're on ARP too. brycec: Nice :) Now they just need to make it to the ISO library (if they haven't already) mercutio: don't think they have brycec: Looks like ARP doesn't quite have them yet actually - a bunch of RC3 stuff, and some of the amd64 ISOs mercutio: ahh brycec: (in the freebsd mirror) mercutio: amd64 is all that matters brycec: Not on my RPI it's not :P mercutio: oh :) brycec: (I didn't want to flood FreeBSD's own mirror, so I was going to download the image from ARP's mirror, but that turns out to be incomplete ;) ) mercutio: has freebsd 10.2 got the new openssh version
i suppose it missed out m0unds: new version being what?
iirc, the announcement indicated 1.0.1p or something
i'm probably gonna wait to do my fbsd boxes, just out of laziness brycec: OpenSSH 7.0 was released a couple of days ago. m0unds: ah
oh, i was thinking openssl -: m0unds derps brycec: clearly m0unds: oh golly, i wonder why it didn't make it in
haha brycec: (the "what you were thinking" not the "derps") m0unds: both are pretty clear
the derps and the openssl
hahaha
the derps, i has them
oh, i meant to ask you brycec - do you have native ipv6 at home/work and have issues w/GCM on your android tablet? brycec: native as in...? m0unds: native as in provided by your ISP and not by way of tunneling?
as in native?
haha brycec: Comcast offers it, but I still use my tunnel instead m0unds: ah, ok brycec: in-network, it's "native ipv6" so I was unclear m0unds: gotcha brycec: (And no, I've not had GCM issues either) m0unds: boo
i don't know anyone who has a modern android device and ipv6 on their home network brycec: tunnelled /48, radvd+dhcpv6, it all Just Works. mercutio: i care way more than i should about the pf default hash changing in freebsd 10.2 brycec: I agree, more than you should. That 3% improvement in PPS, man... mercutio: 3% pps improvement.
yeah
but murmur3 is not only a fast hash, but a good hash
it's win/win brycec: Ick. Looks like my only reasonable path to update my RPI is to blow away my current SD and re-dd mercutio: maybe good excuse to get something better than a pi :) brycec: But now that it's an official image in 10.2 maybe there will be pkg repos for it and stuff now mercutio: sd cards have limited writes and all
it may be designed to minimise writes. brycec: Yeah, lots of md stuff
which makes debugging "why it crashed" a little annoying... but I really don't care that much
it's a simple out-of-band serial box in my server closet
And I really didn't want "just another Linux pi" so it runs FreeBSD.
(I'm pro-OpenBSD, but there is no working RPI port, and I don't have time+resources to work on it... So at least it's *a* BSD) mercutio: maybe netbsd would work
i have an arm box that i had issues with
i should look at it again brycec: You say that as if NetBSD is better than FreeBSD in some way. *burn* mercutio: actually the most annoying thing is if you used a keyboard and mouse at once the power draw would create a whine
freebsd is the slackware of bsd's
all this bloat and questionably useful stuff
unfortunately in comparison to other things these days slackware doesn't seem as bloated :) brycec: I disagree. FreeBSD is the Ubuntu of BSDs mercutio: brycec: have you checked out bitrig? brycec: I'm well aware of it
@bitrig amd64 BryceBot: amd64 -> snapshots: Sat Jul 04 2015 05:48:12 GMT-0700 (PDT) mercutio: i kind of thought it'd go nowhere. brycec: @bitrig arm BryceBot: Sorry, I don't track 'arm'. I only track amd64, armv7. mercutio: they are doing arm stuff too afaik brycec: I too am surprised it hasn't died yet :p
armv7, rpi is armv6 mercutio: armv6 eww
i think my arm box is v7 brycec: BeagleBone Black is v7 I believe mercutio: this is cubietruck -: brycec happens to have cellphones of both architectures too brycec: Yeah think that's 7 too
Pretty sure all the mainstream ARM boards are v7 mercutio: my old cellphone before my previous cellphone was v6 brycec: Including the RPI2 mercutio: cpu was pretty weak on it
lg optimus one
that said it was my first android phone, so it was special for that at least :)
apparently there's a cubieboard 4 now m0unds: yea, RPI2 is also A7 -: brycec said that m0unds: i was confirming it -: brycec confirms m0unds mercutio: doesn't rpi2 run windows 10? -: m0unds confirms brycec confirmed me brycec: Yes m0unds: it can brycec: https://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support m0unds: bananapis are fun too, slightly larger but have a sata controller
their soc mfgr kind of sucks though, it's not as "good" a variant as the rpi/rpi2 mercutio: cubietruck has sata
it's also got onboard nand, microsd, gigabit ethernet
i should try finding a powered hub for it
it would probably fix the whine issue
i dunno why so many of these things use usb for power though
i'd rather shift to poe
but i suppose people want to do wireless etc. brycec: because "everybody" has a USB power brick
at least relative to the number of people with PoE mercutio: means you can't use 3.5" hard-disk though
yeh they could bundle injectors though
or at least support that way of doing things brycec: They do
@google PoE to USB BryceBot: 884,000 total results returned for 'PoE to USB', here's 3
How do I modify my Raspberry Pi to be powered over PoE? (http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/715/how-do-i-modify-my-raspberry-pi-to-be-powered-over-poe) Jun 26, 2012 ... If you want a Raspberry Pi PoE solution that conforms to IEEE 802.3af .... that converts POE to a 5v 3amp usb source: POE-MSPLT-USB.
PoE to USB Adapter for iPad Kiosks . iPad Enclosures (http://www.ipadenclosures.com/ipad_kiosk_enclosure/accessories/poe-to-usb-adapter-for-ipad) Using iPad kiosks has been a revolutionizing solution for many applications, the PoE adapter is the next accessory to assist that revolution, reducing cost of iPad ...
PoE to USB Adapter - ArmorActive (http://www.armoractive.com/products/poe-to-usb-adapter/) The PoE (Power-over-Ethernet) to USB Adapter by ArmorActive is a solution that lends itself to evolving the way tablet kiosks are used in business. With the ease ... mercutio: ahh cool
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mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: this new skylake cpu really hasn't had that much press.
even though in theory it's two generations newer than haswlel mnathani_: @wa 40oz to ml BryceBot: convert 40 fl oz (fluid ounces) to milliliters;1183 mL (milliliters);1.183 L (liters);0.001183 m^3 (cubic meters);1183 cm^3 (cubic centimeters);5 cups;2.5 pints;~~ ( 0.053 ~~ 1/19 ) × volume of one mole of ideal gas at STP ( 1 mol molar volume of ideal gas (273.15 K, 101.325 kPa) );~~ 2 × volume of a typical human breath (~~ 0.5 L );~~ 19 × volume of an Apple iPhone 4 (~~ 6.3×10^-5 m^3 );~~ 0.71 × volume of a US size 5 can ( 7 cups );~