someone snuck a video camera into the meeting room of my last office. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg YouTube video: "The Expert (Short Comedy Sketch)" by Lauris Beinerts qbit: buttons are back; and i'm an idiot for forgetting them until now... ;) yay buttons \o/ up_the_irons: thanks :D i ♥ the android-x86 port qbit: np :) bloody useful to reuse old equipment and give them purpose again surprising on how much it works on out of the box grody: intel put a ton of work into getting android x86 working well, since they're trying to get Atom stuff in as many phones as possible And set-tops like the Nexus Player. forgot that even existed oh, asus is the oem that's why it runs atom otherwise i'd wager a guess it'd be arm they're the largest distributor of handsets w/atom chipsets atm orly? TIL. My Asus tablet is ARM though ;) (Nexus 7) yea, the zenphone and i think the new "padfone" or whatever they're calling the next thing ever have nand issues w/that? Nope i think their whole mid-high/high range of devices is on atom chipsets maybe some of the low end too that's good, i remembered hearing some people had shitty luck w/those http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/ Only complaint is that it's slow - both relative to modern devices, and Android isn't as smooth as it once was. http://www.asus.com/us/Phones/ZenFone-2E-US-ATT-exclusive/ those two ah, that's a bummer It's a pretty common complain. And it doesn't owe me much, it's 3 years old pretty good age for an android device And it's still getting updates which is impressive that's good too Even if those updates aren't "great" :p it sucks to buy a device and have it just cease to exist in the mind of the oem after 18 mos I have a Nook Color (and a Nook Tablet) that haven't had a software update in 2 years :p ouch It's okay, they run CM just fine. Surprisingly fine, even. m0unds: Room needs to be made for the next device to carry the lightning bolts and flames i remember the nook software being kinda janky kellytk: yeah, haha My fav feature of the Nook+CM was they could dual-boot pretty easily. CM has a "universal boot loader" that lets you pick from booting off the internal flash or the microSD. ah, cool there was a bootstrapper thing for cm + webos on the hp touchpad that let you do that too it's kind of disconcerting when you have to have "fast" phoen to have "good" performance on android. they should do the develop-on-way-less-ram trick People have come to want new, shiny, gimmicky features faster than develop-on-way-less-ram can support. Or so it seems. i suppose it's always been the case like windows integrating ie when computers didn't have much ram m0unds, yea, my former windows 8.1 tablet now dual boots android puts a lot of tablets of ARM eq. specs to shame :D quad core baytrail cpu, decent intel HD graphics.. its kinda nice but even an old 1.6GHz N270 Atom laptop with onboard 3G & only an 8GB flash drive (old ass dell thing) - was running XP and was, well, yea put android on it and bloody hell it boots up in around 30 seconds, fully usable considering moving the beagles over to android too nice grody. i'm kind of wondering what hybrid arm/intel type things could do for performance the intel l1 cache etc is insanely fast these days. and arm is pretty far behind on memory bandwidth but with new improvements etc happening now days i suspect single channel ddr4, fast pci-e, etc etc all should be coming and with pci-e ssd's etc, it may be that < 2 second boots happen soon 30 seconds sounds kind of slow to me That's what she said!! it's kind of strang when you see yourself quit