#arpnetworks/ 2015-07-20,Mon

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mercutioahh you don't need to be an isp to get .net in nz
i hate the idea of being an organisation or a company
i figure network is more generic :)
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grodyplett, you'd think wouldn't you :P
LCN will give me one, just not cheaply
although, a .net is just as viable - and more expensive
.me.uk are fun for networking mind
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plettgrody: Every .net.uk application is manually reviewed by nominet. You really do have to be an ISP to get one. [05:48]
grodyhmm
must have changed in the last couple of years
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plettAnd it is only for the ISP's infrastructure, you can't host anything customer on a .net.uk domain
Nope, it's always been that way
That's why the AAISP wiki which customers can edit is on an aa.org.uk subdomain, not .net.uk
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grodyso all i have to do is get a /32 of IPv6 & provide services like HE.net
:)
ahh, LCN will let me have a .net
not even showing up .net.uk
now i want that.. sofakingfast.net
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plettIn RIPE Land, your /32 would have to be PA so you can sub-allocated it to customers, which means you need to be an LIR
And being an LIR means a EUR1300/year invoice from RIPE
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grodyyea sod that :D
£10 for two years on a .net - odd that LCN isn't even offering .net.uk
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plettSince the only people who can get .net.uk are ISPs, they normally know who to ask to get one and don't need it listed on web pages [05:54]
grody:) [05:55]
plettAny registrar who can register a .co.uk can request a .net.uk via exactly the same mechanism [05:55]
grodyreminds me actually.. i need to shuffle some domains on my AA
and somehow get rDNS working off my DNS
w/o exposing myself
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mercutioplett: that sounds annoying
so if you're in RIPE land can you just get ARIN space?
the whole regionality of address space seems a bit iffy to me
i suppose it's moot now in a way, as ip addresses have run out :/
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plettmercutio: Nope. ARIN won't allocate space to an entity in the RIPE region for use in that region [06:12]
mercutiogoogle et al use ARIN space around the world [06:12]
plettGoogle aren't a company in the RIPE region, using IPs solely within that region
For multinationals, you can pretty much get IPs from whoever you feel like dealing with
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mercutioso for international companies they can choose where they get space? [06:13]
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grodycurious question .. would ARP & AA be able to allow me to source my ARP range out of AA and vice-versa?
IPv6*
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plettNo
It just doesn't work that way :)
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grodymaybe just get a /32 and peer with yas instead [07:41]
plettWithout being an LIR you'd have to justify getting anything larger than a /48 [07:41]
grodynah too much effort - it's easy enough relocating IPs with tunnels these days [07:41]
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grodyat cost of latency [07:41]
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mercutiowho was talking about the fonts being insecure thing?
was that before or after this recent code execution font vulnerability on windows?
oh i think it was mike-burns
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kellytkIt was mike-burns
mercutio: I don't recall exactly when his comment was made, however I've known fonts to be a vulnerability surface for quite a while
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mercutioyeh there's a new vulnerability out today [15:18]
kellytkWhat a timely comment in that case :-)
FWIW, I've ultimately decided the security benefit of allowing only email address auth was worth the UX tradeoff in not allowing usernames for auth
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mnathani_how much c would I have to learn to contribute something meaningful towards the linux kernel? [22:12]
mercutioheaps
linux is pretty mature, and there's quite a lot of learned knowledge/experience you should have before wanting to do stuff with it probably.
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