Does anyone value being able to sign in to a website with your emailaddress in addition to the username? yes May I ask why? i usually sign into web sites with email address well there could be a username clash adn then you have to use some annoying difficult username. Do you use the same email address for this purpose? like sometimes mercutio is taken :/ yeh i refuse to be a number! Ok, so in essence it serves as your unique identifier. I get that, thanks mercutio i am not a number, i am a free man. yeah most web sites these days use e-mali y'know you could probably just have e-mail hmm does level3 usually have issues between san jose and london? hmm it's find between los angeles and london I personally like when sites support usernames. Does anyone else? I'm fine with usernames, but not as my login creds. May I ask your reason? I can remember my email address; I cannot remember usernames. My email address is guaranteed unique. I'm in the process of allowing both. What I'm wondering is if usernames have become antiquated. I've been away from web dev for nearly a decade What use do you see in usernames if not for login credentials? Honestly, not much. But I guess handles like on Twitter or Trello. Of the five or six Web apps I built for clients last year, 0 involved usernames and all involved email+passwd. That's my anecdote. How many of them were content sites with user generated community? Two that I can think of. But one of them uses GitHub auth instead of email+passwd. GitHub, in turn, uses email+passwd. How were their identities displayed to others if not by username? it showed their username. Ok, so it seems the trend is moving away from usernames as auth credentials, and back to social handles Email+passwd for auth. Username for display. Right It's like age or gender or whatever other profile data. Thanks for your input mike-burns so i complain about packet loss on vultr, and they tell me that they've removed my smtp block mercutio: was your packetloss on port 25 by any chance lol? nope :) icmp / ssh what location? uk london i need a new uk host i think