#arpnetworks/ 2015-07-15,Wed

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mercutioso the amazon sales start (and i have no prime) [00:31]
apparently free prime atm [00:40]
milkio.O [00:52]
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mercutiooh
i didn't even realise merc2 was still in here :)
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brycecI forgot I'd wanted a Kindle until I pulled up Amazon today
Damn you, Amazon.
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grodyhave an old fire hd7, had to put cyanogen on it though [11:44]
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mercutioheh i'm still waiting for something good brycec [14:59]
brycecI'm not. I just don't care.
I save more money by not spending anything :p
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mercutioheh, i signed up to some site that e-mails me
so i don't have to pay too much attention at least.
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m0undsi like my paperwhite a lot. hada nook but bn cust svc is horrible and they somehow broke my nook acct and couldnt fix it or move my purchases over to a new one
so i used calibre to remove drm and put my nook titles on my kindle
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bryceclame.
m0unds: which gen PW?
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m0undsi think ive had it two years now
might just be one year though
looks like august 2014, based on email receipts for kindle books
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brycecheh, so not the 2015 3rd gen
I'm tempted by the Kindle Voyager which is the same guts as the 3rd gen PW, but with a slightly different body (shape, moved power button to the back), "buttons" for page turning, and the built-in light.
(3rd gen PW does not have any of those features)
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acf_mercutio: I wrote HE for a transit quote yesterday [20:43]
mercutioacf: how come?
curiousity?
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acf_kind of
also looking for colo / vps / etc.. near Vancouver / Seattle area
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mercutioyeah but you won't need enough bw to buy transit :)
well i don't think you would :)
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acf_no, definitely not
if I decided to do colo, how would I go about getting connectivity?
looking at this: http://www.apvio.net/colo-pricing.phtml
$65 / month for 1U, which seems reasonable
I kind of don't want to buy bandwidth from them though
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mercutiomore power too
hangon that's seattle
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acf_yea
apparently Vancouver is way too expensive, and Seattle is close enough anyway
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mercutioyeh i thought vancouver would be expensive
how close is seattle?
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acf_2 and a half hour drive
according to Google Maps
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mercutioahh [20:48]
brycecCan confirm,have driven it. [20:49]
acf_do you think it would be practical to buy bandwidth from someone besides that colo reseller?
:Free Connectivity Setup (in facility cross-connect)
idk if that means just for them, or for anyone in the facility
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mercutionope
jsut think about it, if you were selling bandwidth to some random person wha tkind of minimum profit would you want
do you really think you could get bandwidth for $35 or something?
so why not pay $100/month somewhere that throws in bandwidth
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acf_hmm.. then I should probably look for a different colo provider [20:52]
mercutioyeh
wasn't that one we found before about $100/month?
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acf_https://www.amanah.com/Network/
those guys?
they're in Toronto
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mercutiooh
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1487169
it's cheap and seattle
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acf_that's really cheap [20:57]
mercutioand has ntt, abovenet, peering
my route to there goes via he.net
but that may be peering.
5520 cpus aren't amazing not much ram
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BryceBotThat's what she said!! [20:58]
mercutiobut the price is insanely low [20:58]
acf_yea.. I'm not looking for anything beefy [20:59]
mercutiois downtime ok? [20:59]
acf_yes?
just not all the time :P
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mercutioheh
i have no idea how reliable they are
but if reliability is important i'd do some monitoring first
i'd email them about the ipmi too
make sure it's behind vpn
ahh they do have transit via he.net too
they're also buying their ntt, abovenet through someone else (and have gtt too)
cnservers whoever they are
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gizmoguythey are a "ddos scrubbing" provider [21:06]
mercutioyou've heard of them before?
whmcs ick
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gizmoguyunfortunately [21:06]
mercutioare they bad? [21:07]
gizmoguyactually I don't know [21:08]
mercutioerk apparently they'll block based on dmca alerts
even if faked
that just sounds annoying
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gizmoguyyou have to
according to the DCMA
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mercutiowhy don't you just host with arp acf?
it's not that much further away than seattle.
even if faked?
i thought you had to pass it through to end user if they had a /29
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acf_mercutio: yea. I'm probably going to do that [21:10]
gizmoguymercutio: how can you tell if its faked? [21:10]
mercutiogizmoguy: no idea
i'm reading reviews :/
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acf_if they don't follow proper procedure, etc.. [21:11]
mercutioi got something like dmca or something once
and it doesn't match nz requirements
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gizmoguyyeah I love being in nz
get to throw everything out
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mercutiofwiw acf_ i found gigabit transit for $1300/month
hardly anyone lists pricing
and that was available at that westin dc in seattle
as well as in los angeles somewhere, and one other place
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acf_HE quoted $500/month for gige
probably just going to go with arp
it's difficult to beat
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mercutiowell it's dual power, dual switch etc.
and isn't plauged with ddos attacks all the time.
s/plauged/plagued/
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BryceBot<mercutio> and isn't plagued with ddos attacks all the time. [21:17]
acf_also no cogent [21:17]
mercutio:)
$500/month for gige is pretty good
but yeah it makes so much more sense sharing bandwidth as long as not congesting.
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acf_yea.. that's way too pricey for me [21:18]
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brycecbrycec has been known to congest ARP's ipv6 pipe once or twice >.>
<.<
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mercutioahh i don't use ipv6 [21:53]
brycec(Specifically I'd clogged ARP's v6 router doing transfer tests against mirrors.arp [22:00]
mercutiohmm
how badly did it congest?
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brycecI maxed out the router
(I shared graphs at the time, etc)
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mercutiobut was there loss?
i mean maxing out isn't necessarily as bad as long as it doesn't impact other things too much
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brycecI don't recall [22:41]
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